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PostSubject: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:25 pm

The Bible is clear that most people who think they will be saved will not. I have seen many false-christians defend false-doctrine by pointing out how many other people believe the same thing they do. It is amazing to me the number of people being deceived by the devil's ministers.

Matt 7:13 ¶Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Matt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matt 7:15 ¶Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

The real plan of salvation is Acts 2:38. It is the method whereby one becomes a Christian. If people don't really become Christians then all the other verses in the Bible won't help them in the end.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

The devil knows that if you reject Acts 2:38 and never become a Christian that it won't matter what you do with all of the other verses.

Is your preacher teaching the "broad road" of modern denominal, polytheistic false-christianity? It he teaching the importance of obeying the Bible or some sort of fake grace to deceive you into a comfortable disobedience of the Bible?

Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

But who are we to love? Can we just make up our own trinity gods and worship whoever and however we please?

Jeremiah 2:11 Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.
Jeremiah 5:7 How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots’ houses.
Jeremiah 16:20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods?

Guess not, eh? Well how about if we just follow our hearts to lead us to the right thing to do?

Proverbs 28:26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.

Oops, trusting one's own heart isn't highly recommended either now is it?

Psalms 119:89 LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

So we can trust in the Word of God.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

The identity of the God or "god" or "gods" being worshipped is of utmost importance to any religion. If the head of the religion is fake then the whole religion is fake regardless of whether it has positive disciplines and "self-improvement".

Most of the modern "false-christianities" of this hour worship a man made "trinity" of separate persons invented for them by the early Roman Catholic Church. All trinitarians are either Roman Catholic or "catholic lite". At the core of these false religions is the teaching that their god squad consists of three separate persons but is still a belief in only one "god". Huh? That doesn't even make sense. Ah, but it must be a "MYSTERY". Anyway, you can read all about MYSTERY BABYLON in the book of Rev.

Let us now instead focus on the truth regarding the identity of Jesus Christ and the counterfeits will be easy to spot.

While we humans (created in God's image) certainly have body, soul and spirit we are not each "three separate persons". Though God manifested Himself as "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" he is not "three separate persons" either. When society encounters a man or woman who truly is three separate persons what does society do? That's right we lock 'em up for their good and the good of society. God did NOT create a man as three separate persons.

1) God is a Spirit.

John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

2) God is holy.

I Samuel 2:2 [There is] none holy as the LORD: for [there is] none beside thee: neither [is there] any rock like our God.

3) God is a "Holy Spirit".

4) Jesus is the "Spirit of truth"

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

5) Jesus was "dwelling with them" and promised to be "in them".

John 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he
dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

6) The "comforter" is the "Spirit of Christ"

John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

7) The "Spirit of Christ" is the "Holy Spirit" is the "Spirit of Truth"

John 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the
Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring
all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

8) The Spirit of God visited His creation robed in flesh as the "Son".

I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

9) The fullness of God is in Jesus Christ

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all
principality and power:

10) Jesus IS the "everlasting Father".

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

11) Those who believe that Jesus is a "separate person" from the "Father" don't really know Jesus at all.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and
yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the
Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

It was none other than the Lord of Glory, Jehovah Himself, on the cross.

There is a problem for those who believe a lie.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Now, as an aside here, let me share something that I noticed. If you take
the phrase "a lie" and say it with a good southern accent it sounds like the false god of one of the false religions. Is it not astounding that so many follow a religion where the name of their "god" is "a lie" (allah). But I am dealing more with exposing counterfeit christianity rather than the other false religions.

It is essential to know and believe the truth.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

God said that He would not give His Glory to another. That really was Him, in the flesh, on the cross.

1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

According to the Bible God Himself laid down his life. Does that mean that God died? Keep in mind that God is the inventor of life and death. He can live and die as He pleases because He is God.

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

Jesus could raise Himself from the dead because He is God. To God both life and death are under His complete control. That is why as real Christians we can understand that it really was God Himself on the Cross, God manifest in the flesh.
Not some junior second person in a Roman god squad!

If Jesus was not God the Father, how could he have said:

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

When they looked at Jesus, they saw God manifest in the flesh.

Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.
Acts 22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Acts 22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

Notice that the Lord in heaven claimed to be Jesus of Nazareth! None other than the Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

Acts 22:10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

Notice that the Lord (Jesus Christ) spoke to Paul/Saul.

Acts 22:11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.

Acts 22:12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt [there],
Acts 22:13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.

NOW NOTICE CAREFULLY PLEASE! He said that it was the "God of our
Fathers" that had chosen him, but we just read that it was "Jesus Christ" that chose him. JESUS CHRIST is the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

Acts 22:15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Also, notice, that just a few verses earlier that the "Lord" had declared His Name to be "Jesus of Nazareth".

Jesus Christ is NOT the "second person" in a Roman imaginary "god squad". Jesus Christ is the "Everlasting Father".

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus Christ is the "Mighty God", He is NOT the "second person" of the Roman Catholic trinity, as Satan and his preachers would have you to believe.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

The true Christian Church is the bride of one husband only, the bride of Jesus only.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

I hope this helps...

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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:41 pm

seriously dude? get over yourself. this is the third attempt of your to shove your anti-christ oness garbage down our throat.
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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:44 pm

I like you Santa. You've got spirit and balls! I fear the mob will be upon you soon though....
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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:51 pm

wizardovmetal wrote:
seriously dude? get over yourself. this is the third attempt of your to shove your anti-christ oness garbage down our throat.

Actually, I have a nice study about why trinity is antichrist. You whine a lot but you don't seem to be able to defend your polytheism against the monotheism of the Bible. It must frustrate you so to have your three sacred cows ground into hamburger by the Word of God (or should I say "cow persons"?).

I think this is the first time any Roman god squad idolater wizard has ever suggested that the worship of Jesus Christ is "antichrist". I know this is way over the trinity wizard's head, but since he brought up the subject....

These are the sermon notes for my 1/28/2006 sermon entitled Trinity Is Antichrist.
The video of the sermon has been uploaded to http://www.prime.org

The word "antichrist" appears 4 time in the Holy Bible in four separate verses.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus<2424> is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus<2424> Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus<2424> Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

In each of these verses the word translated as Jesus comes from reference 2424. Since words do mean things so let us look at the definition of the word. If we are to understand a Bible verse then we need to know the meaning of the words used in that verse, eh?

2424 Iesous {ee-ay-sooce’}

of Hebrew origin 03091; TDNT - 3:284,360; n pr m

AV - Jesus 972, Jesus (Joshua) 2, Jesus (Justus) 1; 975

Jesus = "Jehovah is salvation"


Notice the Hebrew of 03091

03091 Y@howshuwa‘ {yeh-ho-shoo’-ah} or Y@howshu‘a {yeh-ho-shoo’-ah}

from 03068 and 03467;

AV - Joshua 218; 218

Joshua or Jehoshua = "Jehovah is salvation" n pr m

Then notice the Hebrew for 03068 referred to above:

03068 Y@hovah {yeh-ho-vaw’}

from 01961; TWOT - 484a; n pr dei

AV - LORD 6510, GOD 4, JEHOVAH 4, variant 1; 6519

Jehovah = "the existing One"
1) the proper name of the one true God
1a) unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of 0136

The trinity does not teach that "Jehovah Savior" came in the flesh, but rather teaches that a "second person", or "junior deity" came in the flesh. Does the trinity teach that Jehovah Himself died on the cross for your sins or do they teach a "junior person", a second person in a man made god squad?

Many are taught John 3:16 but what about 1 John 3:16

1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

That does not say that a junior god person died on the cross now does it? It says that God laid down His life. Now a lot of people say that God cannot die and in the sense they are saying that they are correct that God cannot cease to exist.

However, God is the inventor of life and death so God is able to die and then raise Himself from the dead. You think that is a stretch consider the following verses.

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

God is also the inventor of time as well as life and death. Life and death are tools in his hands.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

But anyway back to our topic of why trinitarianism is not merely stupid and foolish, it is actually antichrist!

There is also another group of verses that warn particularly against polytheistic theories, and further declare them capable of "spoiling".

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Let us review our original verses and simply substitute Jehovah for Jesus since we know that is the actual definition of the word "Jesus".

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus<2424> is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus<2424> Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus<2424> Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

That's right friend. Trinitarianism is not merely stupid foolish and deceitful, it really is ANTICHRIST!

Consider also this verse regarding the human tendency that man has to "make up" his own "gods" (If people didn't get a measure of peace and satisfaction they wouldn't have been worshipping creations of their own minds for centuries).

Jeremiah 5:7 How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by [them that are] no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots' houses.

Jeremiah 16:20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they [are] no gods?

Genesis 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

According to the trinity there would had to have been 5 pair of feet walking in the garden in this verse. 1 pair for Adam, 1 pair for Eve and three pair for the trinity that they were hiding from. Of course the more scholarly of the trinitarians might suggest that there were only 4 pair of feet actually walking because god person #2 was riding on the right hand of god person #1 and I suppose they could have their
god person #3 flying around. To a lot of them their concept of "god" is senior, junior and birdie as it were.

Also let us consider the trinitarian attempt to preach plural gods from Gen 1:26:

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Too bad they didn't read just one more verse, eh?

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Shouldn't verse 27 read "created they them"? And if the "trinity" of three created Adam in "their image", where are the other two Adam persons? We need two other "persons" here. I mean, if one "person" can sit on the other "person"'s right hand then where were Adam's two "co-equal" persons. Then we would need a trinity of wives.

Was Adam, created in God's image, three separate persons one of which was sitting on the hand of the other? But don't forget our theme, trinitarianism is not merely stupid and foolish but it is very evil and harmful.

We have many trinitarians who claim to be "one god", Biblically Christian, and monotheistic. How can this be?

2 Corinthians 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Is not the devil the father of lies? We should not be surprised when his false-christian ministers will lie too, eh?

In the above verses Paul says that it is Biblical to try to cut off occasion from the Satanic ministers who will be pretending to be ministers of righteousness.

Revelation 17:1 ¶ And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Which church is the mother of the harlot trinity denominations? Is it not the RCC herself.

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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:58 pm

never said worship of christ was anti-christ, you deny the existence of the father, that is a problem. i am not an idolater, i do not worship rocks.
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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:25 pm

Winterband, I have refuted your claims twice in the previous threads.
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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:00 pm

Christian Pharisee's like this guy are truly annoying.

Like I said before, if Christ were here today.. He would have no chance of fulfilling this guy's standards of being a true Christian.

Winterband, please answer this question-..

Are you mutliple persons.. becaue you have a body , a mind and a soul? Or are you one person?
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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:27 pm

Iron Guardian, now is the time to see if you and the mods will back up your words on the BB vs. other threads thread where you specifically said:

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As a member of the moderation team on BB, I know that we put up with a lot of crap that goes on. We only step in when something is seriously out of hand, such as some of the things that are going on in this thread.


We have a well defined set of rules here, but let me just paraphrase a key rule here.

DON'T YOU EVER EVEN SO MUCH AS THINK ABOUT CHALLENGING ANOTHER MEMBER'S SALVATION OR WALK WITH CHRIST!

We will no put up with that. Regardless of who you are, you will be disciplined if you do this again in the future.

Winterband is calling us out, calling us false-polytheistic Christian scum. Winterband is calling us anti-Christ. Wizard doesn't even believe in the Trinity either like Voldemort and I, but Winterband is still calling us out on our faith and walk with Christ. Winterband called Wizard a trinity worshipper, despite the fact that Wizard isn't. He is just lumping us all together so he can say we are false Christians. I've personally had it with Winterband trolling, and I think it's his time to either start discussing, or just ban him.
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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:58 pm

I can see that some false-christians are upset at their inability to defend their polytheism against the Bible and their need for censorship.

It is the trinity that teaches a god squad of three separate persons. Also consider that the trinity was not invented until long after the Apostles were gone.

If God were three persons then why was Adam also not three separate persons? Also why do polytheistic false-christians not also teach that the second Adam was three separate persons?

Let me address the biggest problem with trinity idolatry. This "second person" Roman idol god squad member is hardly the real Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible.

I will explain in this brief post why every trinitarian will die in their sins and spend eternity in a devils' hell. I do this not to condemn souls, because the trinitarian is condemned already, but to warn of the fires of hell.

Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Remission of sins is essential for sinful humanity to be "sin free". The word "salvation" means free from sin.

In Acts 2:38 we see that sins are remitted (washed away) by Jesus name baptism. Now the trinitarian is not really worshiping the Jesus of the Bible, so they see no need to be baptised in Jesus name (even though the Bible clearly commands it). They think that their three gods need three separate "titles" in baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

This is because Jesus is the Great "I AM" of the Bible. His name is the ONLY saving name.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

So, you see, trinity preachers really are deceiving people into hell. We don't just say that to be mean, but rather in the service of truth.

Both of the following statements were spoken by the same person:

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily , verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Now the false-christian will not accept that Jesus is "I AM". They "don't believe". They are "non-believers".
That is why Jesus said that those who would not accept that He really was the "I AM" would die in their sins.

1. Those who do not see Jesus as "I AM" see no need to be baptised in the name of Jesus.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

2. Sins are remitted by Jesus name baptism.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

3. Those who don't believe in Jesus will refuse Jesus name baptism and will die with their sins UN-REMITTED.

1 Timothy 5:24 Some men’s sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

That is why Jesus said:

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Sins are washed away by Jesus name baptism. That is why the Bible commands it, so you can "put on Christ".

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Trinitarians are deceived by their filthy preachers into refusing to "put on Christ".

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

What did the people do immediately when Paul told them to believe on Jesus?

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

Notice how the eunuch understood that believing on Jesus included being water baptised in Jesus Name. You now have several examples from the Word of God where hearers of the Word of God knew that belief in Jesus included baptism.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

Even on the day of Pentecost, on the birthday of the New Testament Church, there were 3000 baptised in Jesus Name. Those that receive the Word of God get baptised.

Look back just two verses and see that Peter preached Jesus Name baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

I hope this helps...

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Here are some original Christian music videos
(Warning: May be offensive and frustrating to false-christians)

Blame - by WinterBand A Christian music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuU-BktFtZ0

Jesus Only - by WinterBand A Christian music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flE-O9eG-L0

No Trinity On Me - by WinterBand A Christian music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SLrQokwf_M

Hippie On Grandmas Wall - Live At the Vatican?? by WinterBand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmTxOxcdKco

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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:00 pm

Somebody slay this troll.

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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:06 pm

Have not some false-christians questioned my salvation because I actually obeyed Acts 2:38 to become a real Christian?

Will it really be those who refuse to obey the Bible who will be saved while the Christ rejecting trinity worshipers will be saved in their disobedience?

When Noah obeyed God and built an ark was it Noah that drowned or was it the fools who refused to obey and get onboard the ark who drowned? To listen to a lot of false-christians today you would think that it was Noah who had drowned because he obeyed.

Satan's false preachers sure have a lot of you by the..... er... pride. Yeah, by your pride...

Bound And Determined To Burn - Live At Billy's?? by WinterBand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PnH38v4To

Christian music video about trinity worship.

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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:10 pm

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Iron Guardian, now is the time to see if you and the mods will back up your words on the BB vs. other threads thread where you specifically said:

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As a member of the moderation team on BB, I know that we put up with a lot of crap that goes on. We only step in when something is seriously out of hand, such as some of the things that are going on in this thread.


We have a well defined set of rules here, but let me just paraphrase a key rule here.

DON'T YOU EVER EVEN SO MUCH AS THINK ABOUT CHALLENGING ANOTHER MEMBER'S SALVATION OR WALK WITH CHRIST!

We will no put up with that. Regardless of who you are, you will be disciplined if you do this again in the future.

Winterband is calling us out, calling us false-polytheistic Christian scum. Winterband is calling us anti-Christ. Wizard doesn't even believe in the Trinity either like Voldemort and I, but Winterband is still calling us out on our faith and walk with Christ. Winterband called Wizard a trinity worshipper, despite the fact that Wizard isn't. He is just lumping us all together so he can say we are false Christians. I've personally had it with Winterband trolling, and I think it's his time to either start discussing, or just ban him.
i know seriously, ive stated a zillion times i do not follow modern trinity beleifs.

i think he forgot how to read.

what you do, is respond to every post with how we are going to hell, some link to a video, and a bunch of other links, and while your at it, you throw in a bunch of bible verses that you have taken out of context, nice, real nice.


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PostSubject: Re: It is a narrow way that leads to life   Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:11 pm

Disrespect of one's salvation is not tolerated.

Steve, enjoy a nice vacation.

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