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Jim
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 37 Location : England Registration date : 2009-01-04 Points : 7260
| Subject: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:29 pm | |
| This is something that has interested me for a long time.. It came up with a few of my church friends... If you don't know what Hentai is it's Anime/Manga but sexual really.. Does this fall into the Lustful catagory or is does it not? Because to Lust is to think about a living man or woman in a sexual way.. But because its technically not real life, where does this lye? What are your thoughts on this strange subject? |
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againsttheantichrist
Number of posts : 1120 Age : 35 Location : Somewhere in Georgia Registration date : 2008-11-26 Points : 7080
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:39 pm | |
| Hentai is an anime version of pornography (mostly minor stuff, but there can be some...well, stuff that we will not deal with today). In my eyes, it falls into the realms of pornography, is treated as such, and is thus sinful to look at. |
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Tallerthanatree
Number of posts : 957 Age : 34 Location : Kentucky Registration date : 2009-07-26 Points : 6654
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:46 pm | |
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pinkRenne
Number of posts : 393 Age : 32 Location : Newberry, Florida Registration date : 2009-07-26 Points : 6121
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:00 pm | |
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ELAN
Number of posts : 952 Age : 34 Location : Connectikvlt Registration date : 2009-01-27 Points : 6852
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:09 pm | |
| Personally, I just don't get it. In a day and age where people get off to cartoons, I have a hard time not succumbing to misanthropy. (Kidding.)
Basically, I'd call it a lust issue as it still does depict the concept of sexuality in a non-marital way.
And with cartoons. |
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Hero
Number of posts : 798 Age : 34 Location : Montreal Registration date : 2009-04-06 Points : 6645
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:35 pm | |
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IronGuardian
Number of posts : 2271 Age : 35 Location : Perth, Western Australia Registration date : 2008-11-03 Points : 8358
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:36 pm | |
| Yeah, it's as sinful as other deviant things like bestiality. Just because it's not between two people, it's still thinking about sex in a manner not intended by God. However, with most hentai, the only person you're debasing is yourself... unless the drawings are of real people, rather than just fantasy. Heh, Firefox is telling me that 'hentai' is spelt wrong |
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TheBeastSlayer
Number of posts : 2165 Age : 32 Location : Kingdom of God,State Of Delusion, USA Registration date : 2009-03-26 Points : 8319
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:06 pm | |
| Its stoopid. Watch Dragon Ball Z. Its better. Animated porn. BOO |
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ELAN
Number of posts : 952 Age : 34 Location : Connectikvlt Registration date : 2009-01-27 Points : 6852
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:23 pm | |
| - The Beast Slayer wrote:
- Its stoopid. Watch Dragon Ball Z. Its better. Animated porn. BOO
Why.... in the world....? '2-D characters are sew hawt.'? |
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Kan-o-sushi
Number of posts : 1348 Age : 32 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 7073
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:27 pm | |
| "Cultural Dictionary
pornography
Books, photographs, magazines, art, or music designed to excite sexual impulses and considered by public authorities or public opinion as in violation of accepted standards of sexual morality."
--dictionary.com
Fits the bill to me. |
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therockismighty
Number of posts : 923 Age : 42 Location : Aussieland Registration date : 2009-06-14 Points : 6684
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:47 pm | |
| anything that may cause you to think in ways that you shouldn't, or cause you to stumble... do not entertain or be entertained by them. |
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The Last Firstborn
Number of posts : 2576 Age : 32 Registration date : 2009-04-07 Points : 8972
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:13 am | |
| - therockismighty wrote:
- anything that may cause you to think in ways that you shouldn't, or cause you to stumble... do not entertain or be entertained by them.
Nothing can 'cause' someone to do something. We have self control. |
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Kan-o-sushi
Number of posts : 1348 Age : 32 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 7073
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:52 am | |
| - LastFirstborn wrote:
- therockismighty wrote:
- anything that may cause you to think in ways that you shouldn't, or cause you to stumble... do not entertain or be entertained by them.
Nothing can 'cause' someone to do something. We have self control. dude, that's so nit-picky If I see a seductive picture, I know things happen in my head, of course I put effort towards controlling it - but it still causes things to happen in my head, even if only for a split second. |
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therockismighty
Number of posts : 923 Age : 42 Location : Aussieland Registration date : 2009-06-14 Points : 6684
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:57 am | |
| - LastFirstborn wrote:
- therockismighty wrote:
- anything that may cause you to think in ways that you shouldn't, or cause you to stumble... do not entertain or be entertained by them.
Nothing can 'cause' someone to do something. We have self control. Ok, soooo, if you watch this hentai, and struggle with lusting over woman with huge breasts and then you think about it alot, picture someone you know and then act on these thoughts.... What happened? did a magical fairy make it happen, or watching these cartoons cause you to think in a way you needed to avoid. |
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wizardovmetal
Number of posts : 1056 Age : 33 Location : COLD Registration date : 2009-08-17 Points : 6854
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:49 am | |
| - LastFirstborn wrote:
- therockismighty wrote:
- anything that may cause you to think in ways that you shouldn't, or cause you to stumble... do not entertain or be entertained by them.
Nothing can 'cause' someone to do something. We have self control. yes but things have alot more influence over us then we give it credit for. everything we see hear read or whatever we take it in and it influences us. many things out there have been put out there by satan to create a "numb" society one that doesent feel the guilt in sin. it reminds me of a time i used to listen to what i call "violent" music, alot of it being metal having to do with beating and killing people out of anger (take jungle rot for example) i felt like it wouldnt have any affect on me at all after all, i wasnt a violent person, it was just music. after listening to it for about 2 or 3 months i began to feel violent i almost beat some kid in my youthgroup up because he threw my stuff in the trash being stupid i wasnt that type of person i never had been i stoped listening to the music after praying and getting a conviction from God. i know this is a forum about hentai and im talking about music but it all goes back to the same thing what you take in has more effect on you then you think. oh yea and just throwing this out there, many rapists and child molestors had a history of heavy use of pornography before they actually became rapists or child molestors many of them said that they felt the "need" to satisfy the desires the pornography gave them. one small sin leads into a downward spiral of self indulgence guys and when we endulge the desires of the flesh we do not follow God. apologize for the essay...... |
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againsttheantichrist
Number of posts : 1120 Age : 35 Location : Somewhere in Georgia Registration date : 2008-11-26 Points : 7080
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:18 am | |
| - LastFirstborn wrote:
- therockismighty wrote:
- anything that may cause you to think in ways that you shouldn't, or cause you to stumble... do not entertain or be entertained by them.
Nothing can 'cause' someone to do something. We have self control. If you can fully control it, you're the first person to ever walk this planet besides Jesus Christ Himself that can do it. Side note, the bible is a lie if that's true. |
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Saint Raven
Number of posts : 205 Age : 105 Location : somewhere Registration date : 2009-07-26 Points : 5846
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:26 am | |
| - ELAN wrote:
- Personally, I just don't get it.
In a day and age where people get off to cartoons, I have a hard time not succumbing to misanthropy. (Kidding.)
Basically, I'd call it a lust issue as it still does depict the concept of sexuality in a non-marital way.
And with cartoons. that's pretty much what i think on the subject. |
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Jim
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 37 Location : England Registration date : 2009-01-04 Points : 7260
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:26 pm | |
| - Quote :
yes but things have alot more influence over us then we give it credit for. everything we see hear read or whatever we take it in and it influences us. many things out there have been put out there by satan to create a "numb" society one that doesent feel the guilt in sin. it reminds me of a time i used to listen to what i call "violent" music, alot of it being metal having to do with beating and killing people out of anger (take jungle rot for example) i felt like it wouldnt have any affect on me at all after all, i wasnt a violent person, it was just music. after listening to it for about 2 or 3 months i began to feel violent i almost beat some kid in my youthgroup up because he threw my stuff in the trash being stupid i wasnt that type of person i never had been i stoped listening to the music after praying and getting a conviction from God. i know this is a forum about hentai and im talking about music but it all goes back to the same thing what you take in has more effect on you then you think. .. This is an issue that has been affecting me a lot recently this is why i got rid of all my anti-Christian and violent music, i.e cannibal corpse |
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Matt
Number of posts : 7214 Age : 35 Location : - Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 8947
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:47 pm | |
| I don't see the big deal with it, when I see it (and I have seen it a few times throughout my 'youth', both in video, pictures or comic books, whether with friends, alone, intentional or per accident), it does NOT cause me to think of sexual things with any of the cartoons, nor with any other person. It does not arouses me.
I think it's rather weird, sometimes extremely weird, sometimes drawn incredibly well. A serious question, are there people here who have actual problems with watching paintings of naked people? (or draw naked people in art classes?)
When I see pictures of naked ladies, whether they would pop up on the internet without me wanting it, or are displayed on image boards I frequently (used to) visit, yet know they're shown as well, I don't get the whole arousal thing.
There are actually people who don't see the big deal with sexual imagery, and there are people who can actually only perform when there is fruit stuffed in their behinds... I can see why porn (and hentai) can be the most common way of getting lustful thoughts, but I'm still 100% sure that not everyone is affected by it.
If you want to have a look at it, I am sure it's no big deal, if you actually need it to get aroused, or watch it every other day when being alone in your room, if you get what I mean... then you should rethink watching it. Because most of the times those situations are even more absurd than in porn-flicks, and will probably never happen, nor will you end up with an asian chick looking remotely like one of the girls in those cartoons.
Another question, any people having a difficult time going to an art gallery with nude-pictures, even when it's meant as art? As I once went to one that had like a whole section almost solely for vaginas, and it didn't arouse me at all, I thought it was interesting. |
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bee_rad
Number of posts : 216 Age : 35 Location : WA Registration date : 2009-07-28 Points : 5826
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:19 pm | |
| - yepimonfire wrote:
- many things out there have been put out there by satan to create a "numb" society one that doesent feel the guilt in sin.
Quoted for truth. |
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Hguols
Number of posts : 2103 Age : 44 Location : Irving, Illinois Registration date : 2009-09-09 Points : 7892
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:55 pm | |
| To me the point is, it doesn't really matter what it is, its what it does to me.
If I am overwhelmed with lust by peering upon office furniture, I should probably stay away from that stuff lest I grab it and start clawing my way to hell.
Some people could probably watch a naughty cartoon, get a laugh, and never watch it again. Other people get hooked and get off to it.
A guess a similar instance would be drugs and alcohol. Some people can do it socially, recreationally, and in moderation. Other people would sell their soul for their addiction. |
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therockismighty
Number of posts : 923 Age : 42 Location : Aussieland Registration date : 2009-06-14 Points : 6684
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:23 am | |
| Matt, alot of us can see nude images and art and not get aroused... but alot cannot help but get aroused... we live in a overly stimulated, highly sexual society, that is why some may struggle with anything that may seem "sexual", even though its intentions may not be to arouse. |
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MetalFRO
Number of posts : 1993 Age : 47 Location : Nebraska, USA Registration date : 2008-11-13 Points : 7932
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:32 am | |
| ^^ I was thinking this as well. I can see Renaissance-era nude paintings & not be aroused. Mostly because the majority of them were not in any way sexual in nature. The naked body in and of itself is not sexual. The depiction of such things as a means of sexual stimulation (such as hentai is) is overtly sexual & sinful. I can't watch the stuff because I have a lust issue, plain and simple. It's too easy to fall into that trap. Perhaps one day I'll reach a level of spiritual maturity where God will have brought me through that fire and I'll no longer be tempted by the occasional image on the screen or naughty comic book on the shelf, but at this point in my life I'm too susceptible to it, so I must avoid it like it was a can of botulism. |
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Hguols
Number of posts : 2103 Age : 44 Location : Irving, Illinois Registration date : 2009-09-09 Points : 7892
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:59 am | |
| I have to disagree on some classic art. I think the popular and commercialized nude paintings aren't portrayed in a erotic/sexual manner.
Some of the more "underground" paintings are.
For example, there are some paintings in that era of cunnilingus. |
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Matt
Number of posts : 7214 Age : 35 Location : - Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 8947
| Subject: Re: Hentai? Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:02 am | |
| yeah, I know, many many extremely 'naughty' art was made, although not appreciated by most. (yet sometimes incredibly well-drawn or painted).
And I think I share Hguols sentiments most, steer away from those things that make you fall, yet don't think everyone has the same strengths (or weaknesses) as yourself. |
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