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olias
Number of posts : 2399 Age : 33 Location : USA Registration date : 2009-07-10 Points : 8102
| Subject: RE: Fake Christianity Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:47 pm | |
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againsttheantichrist
Number of posts : 1120 Age : 34 Location : Somewhere in Georgia Registration date : 2008-11-26 Points : 6842
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:43 pm | |
| In reference to the end of the video, knowledge doesn't determine whether one is saved or not. The only thing that can determine whether one is saved is their fruits (Matthew 7:21-23, 2 Corinthians 13:5, 1 John 1,2), because if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17). |
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BryneVampyr
Number of posts : 250 Age : 57 Location : Utah Registration date : 2009-07-26 Points : 5632
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:51 pm | |
| Yes...but he has a point about not knowing where a person comes from. A person may be bearing fruit, but it might not seem like it to me because I don't know what he was like before he got saved and I don't know how difficult it is for him to express Christlike behaviors and attitudes. He may have grown tremendously spiritually, but it might not be evident to me.
Another person may look like they are bearing tons of fruit, but they actually might not be because they were raised in the church and have always behaved this way and find it easy to express things like joy and kindness...but it is more of a habit than real spiritual growth.
C.S. Lewis deals with this subject in Mere Christianity and he comes to a similar conclusion.
Basically, what the guy said about us judging is right...we often have very poor judgment. |
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Kamerad Ash
Number of posts : 2273 Age : 45 Location : Hell Registration date : 2008-12-12 Points : 8364
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:29 am | |
| The irony is.... is that all Real Christianity is fake to some extent. Because none of us can measure up to the perfect Christian... or to the image of Christ.. while in this world and this body.
That being said there are non Christians masquerading as Christians.. and in that sense lies the real meaning of the term Fake Christian, imo. |
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wizardovmetal
Number of posts : 1056 Age : 32 Location : COLD Registration date : 2009-08-17 Points : 6616
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:55 am | |
| I GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY!
then i go home and watch porn, cuss out my parents, get into fights, smoke weed, go out drinking, lay every girl i can get my hands on.
perfect example of fake christians |
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Kamerad Ash
Number of posts : 2273 Age : 45 Location : Hell Registration date : 2008-12-12 Points : 8364
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:36 am | |
| going to church and being part of the "actual" church are of course to different things.. most of the time. |
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TheBeastSlayer
Number of posts : 2165 Age : 32 Location : Kingdom of God,State Of Delusion, USA Registration date : 2009-03-26 Points : 8081
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:57 am | |
| - wizardovmetal wrote:
- I GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY!
then i go home and watch porn, cuss out my parents, get into fights, smoke weed, go out drinking, lay every girl i can get my hands on.
perfect example of fake christians YOure just beggin' to be sigged aren't you? |
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wizardovmetal
Number of posts : 1056 Age : 32 Location : COLD Registration date : 2009-08-17 Points : 6616
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:14 am | |
| ive never been sigged, 'twoud be an honor |
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Matt
Number of posts : 7214 Age : 34 Location : - Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 8709
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:33 am | |
| - wizardovmetal wrote:
- I GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY!
then i go home and watch porn, cuss out my parents, get into fights, smoke weed, go out drinking, lay every girl i can get my hands on.
perfect example of fake christians No, that's the perfect example of a person in need of help and guidance. It doesn't mean he's a fake christian. |
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therockismighty
Number of posts : 923 Age : 41 Location : Aussieland Registration date : 2009-06-14 Points : 6446
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:35 am | |
| ^^ yep fake Christian is someone who has all the knowledge and teaching and never passes it on to those around him/her..... and many other things. Who cares though, what matters is getting your salvation in check aye .... |
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wiremu.white
Number of posts : 152 Age : 39 Location : New Zealand Registration date : 2009-12-29 Points : 5383
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:25 am | |
| - wizardovmetal wrote:
- I GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY!
then i go home and watch porn, cuss out my parents, get into fights, smoke weed, go out drinking, lay every girl i can get my hands on.
perfect example of fake christians At least you're honest about it. Dont come to church, unless you want to live a Christian life. If you don't, what are you doing there? You don't just join a group or club that shares a common interest that you are against. You don't enter a weight loss clinic to eat junk food and meet people, for example. You don't join a vegetarian society if you want to eat meat; you don't join a gun club if you hate guns, etc. |
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Hguols
Number of posts : 2103 Age : 43 Location : Irving, Illinois Registration date : 2009-09-09 Points : 7654
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:59 am | |
| - wiremu.white wrote:
At least you're honest about it.
Dont come to church, unless you want to live a Christian life. If you don't, what are you doing there? You don't just join a group or club that shares a common interest that you are against. You don't enter a weight loss clinic to eat junk food and meet people, for example. You don't join a vegetarian society if you want to eat meat; you don't join a gun club if you hate guns, etc. I think the church is a perfect place for hypocrites, fake and uninterested people. They're certainly not going to get better (examples) on the streets. Some people have that great white flash spiritual experience, where they see live completely differently, and everything changes from that instant. It's like Christ Himself hit them with his love stick, and they'll be seeing hickory for the rest of their lives. Other people (much like myself) have the spiritual experience that's more like the slow seepage of God into the sick soul. They go to church, read the bible, even pray for the completely WRONG reasons, (not to mention the worldly sins in between) but around the right patient and loving Christians, and a VERY patient and loving God, there's definitely hope for them. There's nothing wrong with "fake it til you make it", as long as their way is eventually found. That's pretty much the story of my faith! |
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Munkey
Number of posts : 969 Age : 33 Location : Lafayette, La Registration date : 2009-01-27 Points : 6663
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:00 am | |
| DEATH TO FALSE CHRISTIANS! |
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olias
Number of posts : 2399 Age : 33 Location : USA Registration date : 2009-07-10 Points : 8102
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:38 pm | |
| - Munkey wrote:
- DEATH TO FALSE CHRISTIANS!
I thought you didn't like referring to yourself as a Christian o.O |
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wiremu.white
Number of posts : 152 Age : 39 Location : New Zealand Registration date : 2009-12-29 Points : 5383
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:54 pm | |
| - Munkey wrote:
- DEATH TO FALSE CHRISTIANS!
That's what God apparently says, in one of his parables concerning a lord and servants: "But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me." - Luke 19:27 |
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wiremu.white
Number of posts : 152 Age : 39 Location : New Zealand Registration date : 2009-12-29 Points : 5383
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:00 pm | |
| - Hguols wrote:
- wiremu.white wrote:
At least you're honest about it.
Dont come to church, unless you want to live a Christian life. If you don't, what are you doing there? You don't just join a group or club that shares a common interest that you are against. You don't enter a weight loss clinic to eat junk food and meet people, for example. You don't join a vegetarian society if you want to eat meat; you don't join a gun club if you hate guns, etc. I think the church is a perfect place for hypocrites, fake and uninterested people. They're certainly not going to get better (examples) on the streets.
Some people have that great white flash spiritual experience, where they see live completely differently, and everything changes from that instant. It's like Christ Himself hit them with his love stick, and they'll be seeing hickory for the rest of their lives.
Other people (much like myself) have the spiritual experience that's more like the slow seepage of God into the sick soul. They go to church, read the bible, even pray for the completely WRONG reasons, (not to mention the worldly sins in between) but around the right patient and loving Christians, and a VERY patient and loving God, there's definitely hope for them.
There's nothing wrong with "fake it til you make it", as long as their way is eventually found.
That's pretty much the story of my faith! There's a difference between someone who is a believer but has a sanctification issue, and someone who is totally unregenerate/not born-again. Lot (Abraham's nephew who lived in Sodom) was an example of the former, was quite worldly and had sex with his own daughters. There are unbelievers who may appear more moral than that, but without God. |
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Armando
Number of posts : 54 Age : 34 Registration date : 2010-09-29 Points : 5017
| Subject: Re: RE: Fake Christianity Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:54 pm | |
| - Kamerad Ash wrote:
- The irony is.... is that all Real Christianity is fake to some extent. Because none of us can measure up to the perfect Christian... or to the image of Christ.. while in this world and this body.
That being said there are non Christians masquerading as Christians.. and in that sense lies the real meaning of the term Fake Christian, imo. Have you read Kierkegaard? This sounds a lot like his thoughts on the word "Christian." |
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