Who drew this and can someone explaine it to me

no idea who drew it, but [and this is only a speculation on my part] by the looks of it, it's Christ holding the US Constitution with the folks behind him who defend/support liberty and justice and the ones in front wondering how they screwed it all up with their laws that destroyed it.

OK

So what the hell dose Christ have to do with US Constitution, the folks who defend/support liberty and justice and the ones who destroyed it.

Christ isent evean an American

by the way i just relised this thread is in the wrong thread, can someone change that?

If you look closer, you will notice that the crowd is divided.

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Kräg wrote:: OK

So what the hell dose Christ have to do with US Constitution, the folks who defend/support liberty and justice and the ones who destroyed it.

Christ isent evean an American

America was founded on Christian principals, and a good majority of the founding fathers were Christians, the others were deists. So that painting is showing how we started out following god as a country, but later on how our nation has turned our backs on him.

to add to what MetLHed4GZus wrote.......one could go as far as saying America is the new Babylon because of how corrupt it has become since the early 1900's in the last 109 years this country has moved so far away from the God this country was founded on that it's no wonder why people hate our nation.

The big problem is though, the people that hate this nation, hate it but do nothing to help change it for the better which is what this country NEEDS. They just sit and complain about it of think some great leader is going to do it for them....when that is not the case.

NorthernAsh wrote:: one could go as far as saying America is the new Babylon because of how corrupt it has become since the early 1900's in the last 109 years this country has moved so far away from the God this country was founded on that it's no wonder why people hate our nation.

Right, because the only place a book written in the first century middle east could be referring to is 21th century America... Rolling Eyes

I'm not saying your wrong, just that it is highly unlikely. I could be totally wrong, however.

I don't know, but the painting looks like something Misery Index could use on a album cover... lol

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Here's a link to who painted this picture. His name is Jon McNaughton

http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=353#

^ EXCELLENT link! Hover over each figure in the picture to learn what they represent.

I'm with Krag on this one.

If you press me, I identify myself as a conservative, but it makes me sick to see somebody tack Jesus onto a political agenda like this, even if it's one I might hold to. Jesus is not a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican party, or of social conservatives in general.

This painting is manipulative, judgmental, self-righteous, and about as subtle as a pile of bear feces in the IBM Clean Room.

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^I agree with you 100%.

A depiction of Jesus Christ defending any text that isn't the Word of God is blasphemy.

Architeuthis wrote:: If you press me, I identify myself as a conservative, but it makes me sick to see somebody tack Jesus onto a political agenda like this, even if it's one I might hold to. Jesus is not a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican party, or of social conservatives in general.

This painting is manipulative, judgmental, self-righteous, and about as subtle as a pile of bear feces in the IBM Clean Room.

This +1

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NorthernAsh wrote:: to add to what MetLHed4GZus wrote.......one could go as far as saying America is the new Babylon because of how corrupt it has become since the early 1900's in the last 109 years this country has moved so far away from the God this country was founded on that it's no wonder why people hate our nation.

The big problem is though, the people that hate this nation, hate it but do nothing to help change it for the better which is what this country NEEDS. They just sit and complain about it of think some great leader is going to do it for them....when that is not the case.

I am actually one of those who think that America is the new bablylon. It all makes sense when I think about it and read Revelation.

Oh my god! The amount of idiocy in this thread is going to make me burst. So many of you criticize this painting, and yet are IGNORANT of the context of the painting. I'll let him tell it in his own words:

McNaughton's response to liberal criticisms of "One Nation Under God.
I would like to take a minute to explain some of the points of confusion for those who wish to interpret my picture.

Each figure including Christ represents a symbol. Everything about the painting is symbolic. I don't pretend to know what Christ looks like. As I stated in my interview, I wanted to create an image that would instantly be recognizable as Jesus. I am not painting an anthropological Jesus. Nobody would recognize him if I painted him that way.

The figures in the background have been the source of great debate. Let me make myself clear from my writing that just because they stand behind Christ, does not mean they are devout Christians evoking all to come unto Jesus and be baptized?! What I am saying is that they represent those who have influenced our country and our Constitution in a positive way. Many of these men and women gave their lives so we could have the liberties we enjoy. We are now at a time when these liberties are in peril. Our government has grown so big and powerful that the rights of the individual are at risk. This is what the Constitution was about—to limit the size of government. The patriotic heroes who stand behind Christ and the Constitution are pleading with us to defend the cause of liberty. Except for the pregnant woman in the lower right corner, these people symbolize those who have pushed our country towards Socialism. (The pregnant woman's place in the painting is explained on the website.)

In connection to my last statement, I knew when I painted this picture that Thomas Payne (so sorry I offended some of you for spelling his name wrong), and Thomas Jefferson were Deists. That was irrelevant to me. I believe God brings about His purposes through different people. Even those who aren't baptized or following the accepted Christian religion.

Not only have I received flack for this painting from Liberals, but also from the Right as well. Why did you include JFK? Why Lincoln? Why Teddy Roosevelt? I painted this picture to reflect my personal feelings about America. This is not a Republican painting. This is not anything other than one artist's personal feelings about his love for Christ, this country and a desire to make a point about where we are headed. I hoped that this painting would encourage dialogue and debate. It is important that you understand my position before you make assumptions.

One of the most ridiculous criticisms I have read is that I don't have enough minorities in the painting. The way people throw around the word "racist" these days is overkill. From the beginning of the painting I chose to include a variety for ethnicities under the "Strong Americans" category. I also used different races in the background where I could. One of the most important positions in the painting is where the black U. S. soldier is standing. Originally, I had Martin Luther King Jr. here. He was so important for his leadership in the Civil Rights Movement. I removed him because of copyright issues with the King Foundation. Although disappointed, I thought a good substitute would be the soldier.

Some of the chatter going around on these liberal blog sites I feel is unfounded. One of the things I said to myself from the beginning was the knee jerk reaction some people would have to the painting would be very revealing as to which side they personally stood in the picture. If you don't believe the Constitution was inspired of God, fine. We will agree to disagree.

Some so called "art experts" feel that a true painting should not be explained, but left to the viewer to interpret. I may not reveal all my thoughts, but I want the world to know what I think and feel;that's why I painted it! Great art causes one to feel. To feel deeply. I knew this painting would evoke emotion on both sides. I knew it was a unique concept, having never been painted before. I don't care if the composition is outdated or whether some other artist may have painted their composition better than me. The message stands alone.

Why Satan? I don't for a second believe he looks like that, but I do believe he is real. Again, the image is symbolic. Having Satan near these people doesn't mean that they are Satanic. If you believe in God, surely you would believe in a Satan.

OK, how could McNaughton be so ignorant about Charles Darwin and "Origin of the Species?" Yes, I have read the book and yes I do believe in many of the theories it espouses. What?! No, I don't' think the book should be burned and kicked out of the school curriculum. Some of the rebuttals I have heard in regard to this subject in my painting are unfounded. I believe that this book is a standard that the left uses to push Christianity out of the Educational Forum. I believe that we need faith in our schools. I believe that I did not evolve from an ape. You may disagree, but that is how I feel. Do I believe Evolution should be taught? Yes. Should Christian thought or any other religion be allowed to be discussed without reservation? Yes, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others.

^Rant Much?! lol!

Dude. Its goofy to me. America is founded on God. Ammendment #2 is the best tho.
The gun one.

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tl;dr

LastFirstborn wrote:: tl;dr

no u.

One thing I always say about how screwed up America has gotten is "I bet our forefathers are rolling in their graves." It's like all they went through is going down the crapper and we have no one to blame but ourselves. I happen to like that picture, and I read the explanation of the paiting and I fully agree with what he is saying. We used to be a nation under God, where did that go??

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Mortificationrulez wrote:: One thing I always say about how screwed up America has gotten is "I bet our forefathers are rolling in their graves." It's like all they went through is going down the crapper and we have no one to blame but ourselves. I happen to like that picture, and I read the explanation of the paiting and I fully agree with what he is saying. We used to be a nation under God, where did that go??

I second that.
I think that this country used to be amazing back in the day. Now everyone is going crazy, fighting for rights to kill babies, and removing God out of everything we do.

But on the other hand. It is said that God controls the voice of the king, meaning that He is in control of the direction of the government. So I don't think I have the room to say much.

vaterflaumig wrote:

Mortificationrulez wrote:: One thing I always say about how screwed up America has gotten is "I bet our forefathers are rolling in their graves." It's like all they went through is going down the crapper and we have no one to blame but ourselves. I happen to like that picture, and I read the explanation of the paiting and I fully agree with what he is saying. We used to be a nation under God, where did that go??

I second that.
I think that this country used to be amazing back in the day. Now everyone is going crazy, fighting for rights to kill babies, and removing God out of everything we do.

But on the other hand. It is said that God controls the voice of the king, meaning that He is in control of the direction of the government. So I don't think I have the room to say much.

Don't forget about gay marriage as well. But yea, I would love to have been in the country back in the day. But I love technology and late night fast food runs though lol... Dunno what I'd do without my gaming.

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I think it's a little nearsighted to say that everything was so great in "the good old days." Human nature doesn't change. Back in the day, the US had great things like slavery and oppression of women.

The US was never a Christian nation and never will be, at least not as I define the term. I don't care how many times God's name shows up in the US Constitution or whether the ten commandments are on display in public buildings. We're a nation of idolaters, in a world of idolaters, and always have been.

Architeuthis wrote:: I think it's a little nearsighted to say that everything was so great in "the good old days." Human nature doesn't change. Back in the day, we had great things like slavery and oppression of women.

This country was never a Christian nation and never will be, at least not as I define the term. I don't care how many times God's name shows up in the Constitution or whether the ten commandments are on display in public buildings. We're a nation of idolaters, in a world of idolaters, and always have been.

/Darth Vader: I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Meh, to each his own. Yea slavery and oppression of women sucks yea, but remenber Honest Abe got rid of slavery because he saw the flaw in that.

That painting is Blasphemous on an epic level and mocksChrist on a disgusting level.

The Christians that promote this sort of political Christ are no different to me than the Muslim Al Queda or the National Socialists of 1900's Germany.

This sort of thing promotes radicalism and Theocracy and not reason or Christianity as it truly is.

But, they should have their right to be that way.