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stargazer
Number of posts : 151 Age : 33 Location : Maryland Registration date : 2009-07-27 Points : 5806
| Subject: Miss May I Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:17 pm | |
| Miss May I needs to be removed from the vault. They're definitely not a christian band. |
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The Last Firstborn
Number of posts : 2576 Age : 32 Registration date : 2009-04-07 Points : 8972
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:24 pm | |
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MetalMatt
Number of posts : 5020 Age : 30 Location : Indiana Registration date : 2009-01-31 Points : 10951
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:39 pm | |
| - stargazer wrote:
- Miss May I needs to be removed from the vault. They're definitely not a christian band.
Please explain |
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oldschooldoom
Number of posts : 2080 Age : 61 Location : The land of the UNfrozen Registration date : 2009-07-27 Points : 8129
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:28 pm | |
| Yes, please state your reason why. A link would be a bonus. Now, I am curious where my youth pastor friend got this from or how he found out about it. |
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lhversaw
Number of posts : 324 Age : 55 Location : kansas Registration date : 2009-02-06 Points : 6221
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:21 pm | |
| - stargazer wrote:
- Miss May I needs to be removed from the vault. They're definitely not a christian band.
why do you say this? and even if this was true then across five aprils would have to be removed as well. |
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wizardovmetal
Number of posts : 1056 Age : 33 Location : COLD Registration date : 2009-08-17 Points : 6854
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:51 pm | |
| well i just read all the lyrics and none of them seem christian at all |
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lhversaw
Number of posts : 324 Age : 55 Location : kansas Registration date : 2009-02-06 Points : 6221
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:11 pm | |
| interesting that they are carried by divine metal distro then. james indicated that they were a christian band. |
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James
Number of posts : 3979 Age : 46 Location : Mojave Desert, CA Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 7914
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:21 pm | |
| - lhversaw wrote:
- interesting that they are carried by divine metal distro then. james indicated that they were a christian band.
I didn't start carrying them until it was added to the vault. |
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TheBeastSlayer
Number of posts : 2165 Age : 32 Location : Kingdom of God,State Of Delusion, USA Registration date : 2009-03-26 Points : 8319
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:28 pm | |
| - James wrote:
- lhversaw wrote:
- interesting that they are carried by divine metal distro then. james indicated that they were a christian band.
I didn't start carrying them until it was added to the vault. WAY TO FACT CHECK! FAIL! |
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oteis
Number of posts : 3067 Age : 45 Location : Zwolle, The Netherlands Registration date : 2008-11-22 Points : 8991
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:31 pm | |
| so....we still don't have any proof...link....source.... |
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wizardovmetal
Number of posts : 1056 Age : 33 Location : COLD Registration date : 2009-08-17 Points : 6854
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:51 pm | |
| - The Beast Slayer wrote:
- James wrote:
- lhversaw wrote:
- interesting that they are carried by divine metal distro then. james indicated that they were a christian band.
I didn't start carrying them until it was added to the vault. WAY TO FACT CHECK! FAIL! lol |
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James
Number of posts : 3979 Age : 46 Location : Mojave Desert, CA Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 7914
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:55 pm | |
| Nobody has actually given any proof that they're not a Christian band. So prove it. |
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mazzie
Number of posts : 5090 Age : 38 Location : New York Registration date : 2008-11-03 Points : 9998
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:20 pm | |
| Yeah I hate it when people accuse the bands of not being or being christian without something to back it up. |
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Shamax
Number of posts : 701 Age : 46 Location : Charleston, WV Registration date : 2008-11-09 Points : 6591
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:32 pm | |
| Never really listened to the band outside of the few samples on DMD, but here's the lyrics to "Arms of the Messiah" off the new album (taken from here): - Quote :
- Follow paths paved with nothing.
These waters fill with the dead. The haste is brought with force which it is made Beyond all hope this is true. Shores expire over azure horizons. Waves bury our fathers and consume all that we have loved. Look into their eyes with the flawless feelings that you fake prepare for these tides of annihilation. annihilation. Open your eyes to what you have been breathing upon. Shadows are all we have and they whisper lies. Blood will be our only escape. These arms bring strength behold what we have Also, I found an interview with the lead singer here. - Quote :
- Well, we have been asked a lot if we are a Christian band due to our lyrics. And the answer to that is no, but some of us are Christians and others are not. But myself as a Christian, I try and not put the wrong negative message out in our lyrics.
Sounds fine to me. They're not a "ministry" band it would seem, but if you're gonna count Zao and many others as still belonging to the Christian-friendly scene, I'd say these guys are fine. |
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lhversaw
Number of posts : 324 Age : 55 Location : kansas Registration date : 2009-02-06 Points : 6221
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:50 pm | |
| - Shamax wrote:
- Never really listened to the band outside of the few samples on DMD, but here's the lyrics to "Arms of the Messiah" off the new album (taken from here):
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- Follow paths paved with nothing.
These waters fill with the dead. The haste is brought with force which it is made Beyond all hope this is true. Shores expire over azure horizons. Waves bury our fathers and consume all that we have loved. Look into their eyes with the flawless feelings that you fake prepare for these tides of annihilation. annihilation. Open your eyes to what you have been breathing upon. Shadows are all we have and they whisper lies. Blood will be our only escape. These arms bring strength behold what we have Also, I found an interview with the lead singer here.
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- Well, we have been asked a lot if we are a Christian band due to our lyrics. And the answer to that is no, but some of us are Christians and others are not. But myself as a Christian, I try and not put the wrong negative message out in our lyrics.
Sounds fine to me. They're not a "ministry" band it would seem, but if you're gonna count Zao and many others as still belonging to the Christian-friendly scene, I'd say these guys are fine. i agree with this however i did find some lyrics myself and the were a couple of f-bombs. i think they are fine as most of the lyrics do have a lean to christianity. however it does appear that they are in a sense of struggle then in the end of the song a sense of peace in good. if that makes any sense. |
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lhversaw
Number of posts : 324 Age : 55 Location : kansas Registration date : 2009-02-06 Points : 6221
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:53 pm | |
| - James wrote:
- lhversaw wrote:
- interesting that they are carried by divine metal distro then. james indicated that they were a christian band.
I didn't start carrying them until it was added to the vault. my quote was more of a questioning the guy saying they weren't christian than questioning you. |
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325ad
Number of posts : 967 Age : 54 Location : Native America Registration date : 2008-11-07 Points : 7123
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:05 pm | |
| I think they are fine but I tend to be a bit Liberal on what I accept. When in doubt ask Dale what he thinks! |
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oldschooldoom
Number of posts : 2080 Age : 61 Location : The land of the UNfrozen Registration date : 2009-07-27 Points : 8129
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:23 pm | |
| Sorry, I forgot about this thread. I was prompted to ask my Youth Pastor friend. Here is his reply, "Yep...they were advertised in HM...they may not be 100% ministry, but they are Christians." This goes in agreement with some of the above statements. Personally, I have not listened but I will. |
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MetalFRO
Number of posts : 1993 Age : 47 Location : Nebraska, USA Registration date : 2008-11-13 Points : 7932
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:11 am | |
| I ordered this via DMD so maybe once I get my copy I'll have a look. |
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oldschooldoom
Number of posts : 2080 Age : 61 Location : The land of the UNfrozen Registration date : 2009-07-27 Points : 8129
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:54 am | |
| Okay, I listened to this yesterday.
Sorry, I won't be much help in determining it's merits as I cannot understand 99% of the lyrics. This type of vocal style is not my forte. It would be best to have a link to the complete lyrics.
Guessing that not everything that is in HM mag & DMD should be in the vault and vice versa.
The fact check goes on. |
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lhversaw
Number of posts : 324 Age : 55 Location : kansas Registration date : 2009-02-06 Points : 6221
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:12 pm | |
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oldschooldoom
Number of posts : 2080 Age : 61 Location : The land of the UNfrozen Registration date : 2009-07-27 Points : 8129
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:24 pm | |
| Thank you for the link. I have made an official motion to have this band removed from the vault. Stargazer, thank you for bringing this to our attention. You know your stuff |
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lhversaw
Number of posts : 324 Age : 55 Location : kansas Registration date : 2009-02-06 Points : 6221
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:11 pm | |
| i think this band to be safe and as is stated and show through other links here there are christian members in this band. if they are removed from the vault then you must remove all bands that fit into this situation. such as across five aprils and zao. |
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TheBeastSlayer
Number of posts : 2165 Age : 32 Location : Kingdom of God,State Of Delusion, USA Registration date : 2009-03-26 Points : 8319
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:32 pm | |
| - oldschooldoom wrote:
- Sorry, I forgot about this thread. I was prompted to ask my Youth Pastor friend. Here is his reply, "Yep...they were advertised in HM...they may not be 100% ministry, but they are Christians."
This goes in agreement with some of the above statements. Personally, I have not listened but I will. I got an email from HM a couple months ago asking if we would be cool w/ secular metal bands being advertised in the mag so I dont think this logic is solid. Plus, Rockstar's Mayhem tour is advertised in there and It's not christian. |
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TheBeastSlayer
Number of posts : 2165 Age : 32 Location : Kingdom of God,State Of Delusion, USA Registration date : 2009-03-26 Points : 8319
| Subject: Re: Miss May I Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:36 pm | |
| - oldschooldoom wrote:
- Thank you for the link. I have made an official motion to have this band removed from the vault.
Stargazer, thank you for bringing this to our attention. You know your stuff Bump. I agree with removing bands who curse from the vault. At least in they're songs. "Let no foul word leave your mouth." I think F-bombs and the like fall into that catergory. |
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