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PostSubject: Re: Heaven and Hell   Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:34 am

wizardovmetal wrote:

as far as the "traditional view" of heaven, (clouds and harps) all i have to say is this
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that's the hollywood version haha. Heaven is described a little, like a city of gold. There will be alot of mansions, a throne room, and a huge dining hall. That's about all the information the bible gives us on Heaven

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PostSubject: Re: Heaven and Hell   Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:49 pm

Jim wrote:
i'm far from a scholar (except egyptology Razz)
but this idea of "eternal torment" in Hell because you don't believe everything in the bible (and that is how i've always been taught) just feels like "fear mongering"
What your saying LordV really makes sense that, if you do believe you get to live forever with JC but if you don't you just die forever.
Now thats a choice i can make without, fear, guilt etc.

I agree.

When we think of Hell we think of Dante's Inferno or Paradise Lost. Which both rely on their own fantasy as well as mythology, especially Dante.

But if one boiled the bible down to two thoughts Life and Death, than both become eternal.
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PostSubject: Re: Heaven and Hell   Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:23 pm

to me hell is exactly how christ describes it, darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, my grandma has the misfortune of actually being shown this place by god when she was suicidal, it is exactly as described, i also beleive when the whole lake of fire thing comes to pass and when hell is thrown into it, the souls are permanently destroyed, as LV states, eternal death. ask anyone who has died and seen "paradise" and you yield consistent results of a beautiful lush landscape full of vibrance and life the physical plane never had, ive been doing alot of scientific research on god, the spirit world etc, come up with the conclusion that paradise, heaven etc are not a different dimension in THIS universe, but a seperate universe altogether, science has shown their is a possibility of many universes each programed to function differently meaning they would not have to abide by the same physical laws as this universe.
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