-----------------------------------------------------
 
HomeGalleryFAQRegisterLog in

Share | 
 

 Satanism

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
AuthorMessage
Sutekh

avatar

Number of posts : 1356
Age : 45
Location : Australia
Registration date : 2008-11-04
Points : 5082

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:02 am

wizardovmetal wrote:
im not exactly sure what your talking about....in all seriousness DOL and because, ever historian knows the sumerian texts predate the bible by thousands of years genesis 6000 years old, enuma elish, at least 10,000

Thousands of years is misleading. Texts like the Enuma Elish were composed somewhere between the time of Hammurabi (around 1700 BC) and 1100 BC. The Early Dynastic Period was around 2900 BC (when Sumerian religious writings emerged), and the Bible (at least the Hebrew Scriptures)
were written between 1500 and 400 BC (following the development of the Hebrew alphabet).

Both mythologies were passed down in oral form before the invention of writing, and there is definitely a commonality between them (and indeed, pretty much every other ancient mythology), so arguments about predating are purely speculative.
Back to top Go down
wizardovmetal

avatar

Number of posts : 1056
Age : 27
Location : COLD
Registration date : 2009-08-17
Points : 4682

PostSubject: Occult in the everyday world.   Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:25 am

this thread was started because people wanted instances of how the occult is involved in music, movies, and a large portion of pop culture. here is one example. and please take my advice on the symbols, ive been involved in this, and know how to use the symbols and what they are.



very interesting album cover, now let's give example of occult symbols contained in this.

FIRST AND FOREMOST the triangle in the circle. this is known as the Thaumaturgic Triangle for a reason i am unaware of, it is extensivley used in the illuminatti, what it is used for and what it symbolizes i do know. it is a triangle in a circle similar to a pentagram in a circle, it is used a doorway when summoning demons, the symbol can be drawn on the floor when summoning a demon to act as an area in which the demon will appear when summoned, the circle contains the demon, if there is a slight break in the circle, the demon will escape, sometimes the circle is made out of salt (not sure why, but it works) i honestly doubt a circle can contain a demon, but its used anyways, the triangle is a doorway.

another interesting example of this being used is in rhiannas umbrella video. it is full of occult symbols, let alone the lyrics and imagery of the whole vide, i wont go into the lyrics because i doubt anyone would even pay attention to my opinion on them. here are some snapshot of the video i took using print screen. this one i find extremely disturbing


let me just say now, this song, is NOT a love song, unless your comparing it to black sabbaths idea of a love song. both of these images appear for a split of a split second on the video, they both indicate a doorway. the sybolism here is also a transformation of light to darkness. as you see rhianna entering the gateway it is light, coming out, now dont say im going to far here, it is dark and she is in the position symbolizing a goats head. now let me tell you it is physically impossible to achieve that position and it was computer edited to make it appear that way.
now back to soundgarden, seem to have gotten off track here, the "circle" performs two purposes in this cover, one, the circle around the triangle, two it is the "black sun" this symbol was, for some odd reason, used extensivley by nazi germany, but is an occult symbol, here is a description taken directly from a satanic website, "The Black Sun is of the void. It is a blackhole where all light is drawn in and nothing escapes. The black sun is Plutonian in concept (astrologically) and represents the necessary death and transformation before new life can occur. Those of us who have meditated on the symbol of the black sun have seen the lightening bolts eminating from the center as in the National Socialist symbol above. This is the void of creation as when the blackhole can absorb no more into the vaccuum, it implodes like an atom bomb and this is where the "Big Bang" of creation originates. " many satanists beleive in darkness as a form of light, or the absorption of light, many of them beleive they must die to acheive godhead, yes, im not making this up, if you follow high priestess maxines plan for magnum opus, it ends up killing you. luckily i was never stupid enough to follow it, the process is in its basic form, absorbing as much energy as possible astrally, it is a combination of eastern breathing techniques, meditation, energy manipulation, etc. yes satan is still telling the same lie he deceived adam and eve with that they can become gods, this is the "biggest" goal in satanism. supposedly when you achieve god head you die, and incarnate as a "god" on the astral plane somwhere where you then continue working towards reaching higher levels of godhood. although NO ONE CAN REACH GOD HEAD. obviously. honestly, i have no idea why there is so much occultism in the artwork of music, but there is.
Back to top Go down
http://www.myspace.com/jbmetalhed
Jim

avatar

Number of posts : 1416
Age : 31
Location : England
Registration date : 2009-01-04
Points : 5088

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:10 am

you just take anything and add some cryptic crap about some occult or satanic ritual or symbols or any other **** you can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about...
Back to top Go down
http://www.holynightclothing.com
Mr. Rotout

avatar

Number of posts : 371
Age : 29
Location : Tennessee
Registration date : 2009-11-10
Points : 3776

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:13 pm

[quote="wizardovmetal"]this thread was started because people wanted instances of how the occult is involved in music, movies, and a large portion of pop culture. here is one example. and please take my advice on the symbols, ive been involved in this, and know how to use the symbols and what they are.



very interesting album cover, now let's give example of occult symbols contained in this.

Great album!
Back to top Go down
http://www.myspace.com/engarniainc
olias

avatar

Number of posts : 2399
Age : 28
Location : USA
Registration date : 2009-07-10
Points : 6168

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:03 pm

Bands using occult symbols.....

Oooooooooh scarrrrry.

You have to look hard, but if you look closely you can see an occult symbol here as well.



Oh and that circle with the triangle reminds me of the Seal of Samael in Silent Hill 1

Back to top Go down
Death over Life

avatar

Number of posts : 632
Age : 29
Location : The Inner Sanctum known as my Insanity and Damnation
Registration date : 2008-11-02
Points : 4341

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:26 pm

Super Satan to the rescue!

Anyways, a triangle in a circle does nothing. A pentagram does nothing. I find it interesting that Olias mentioned a baphomet symbol whenever that specific symbol originated from Christianity and was later on adopted by occultists. (Many thought that the Baphomet was going to migrate to Islam actually)

The theme is this. Symbols within themselves have no powers. The only powers they have are that which we give them. With this constant fear and shuddering of symbols, I feel that so much power has been given to them that I personally call it idolatry. Once you lose the powers you give the symbols, the symbol's powers have thus been destroyed.

So, just because you see a St. Peter's cross doesn't mean you are summoning demons. The very fact that you even posted that disproves what you have written, because the very flashing of that symbol means that everyone who has viewed this thread should of had demons summoned. Of course I find that hard to believe that all these Christians has just accessed the occult by viewing of a triangle in a circle or a baphomet, but this is me we're talking about.

No disrespect or rudeness, just my .02 on this subject. I remember being extremely informative on the said subject due to debating on the subject of symbols for so long.
Back to top Go down
wizardovmetal

avatar

Number of posts : 1056
Age : 27
Location : COLD
Registration date : 2009-08-17
Points : 4682

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:28 pm

no they dont have power, but when applied in use they do have power. but nevertheless they are still occult symbols
Back to top Go down
http://www.myspace.com/jbmetalhed
BryneVampyr

avatar

Number of posts : 250
Age : 52
Location : Utah
Registration date : 2009-07-26
Points : 3698

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:29 pm

Well...let's start with the triangle in the circle...

I found that symbol in this collection of Christian symbols:



Yep...it is a Christian symbol...an ancient Christian symbol...the triangle represents the Trinity, and the circle represents Eternity...the Eternal Trinity.

So...are we to conclude that because this is a Christian symbol, Sound Garden must be trying to express some Christian message...or perhaps, they thought the graphics looked cool, and they weren't thinking of symbols at all when choosing this cover (assuming that they had anything to do with the choice of the cover)
Back to top Go down
olias

avatar

Number of posts : 2399
Age : 28
Location : USA
Registration date : 2009-07-10
Points : 6168

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:09 pm

DOL, I was being sarcastic.
Back to top Go down
wizardovmetal

avatar

Number of posts : 1056
Age : 27
Location : COLD
Registration date : 2009-08-17
Points : 4682

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:13 pm

none of those symbols are christian in origin

i just want to say i wrote this article because people wanted instances, here are instances. what you choose to twist them into is your choice, i am not going to argue back and forth with anyone. the information is there, now read it, and decide for yourself
Back to top Go down
http://www.myspace.com/jbmetalhed
therockismighty

avatar

Number of posts : 923
Age : 36
Location : Aussieland
Registration date : 2009-06-14
Points : 4512

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:19 pm

Always knew soundgarden were christian, thanks..... cheers Razz
Back to top Go down
BryneVampyr

avatar

Number of posts : 250
Age : 52
Location : Utah
Registration date : 2009-07-26
Points : 3698

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:34 pm

It is very probable that the triangle/circle symbol was used prior to Christianity...afterall, they are basic geometric shapes, and would be easy to incorporate into a design...they are simple and easy to draw and remember...I bet we could find several ancient cultures that used a similar symbol, with various meanings behind them...in fact, that is true with many Christian symbols...including the cross.

BUT...that does not negate the fact that it IS a Christian symbol...and a very ancient one, at that. (as are the other ones in the picture that I posted)
Back to top Go down
The Last Firstborn

avatar

Number of posts : 2576
Age : 26
Registration date : 2009-04-07
Points : 6800

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:53 pm

Yeah, a lot of pop culture is definitely riddled with occult imagery. Sometimes, the artists are not occultists themselves, but there is someone behind the scenes controlling the imagery that goes into their music videos, album art and even lyrics. At this point, I'm not sure if I believe 100% that pop culture is co-opted by the Illuminati, but I won't try to deny the signs for my own comfort. Then again, it doesn't matter much to me anyway.
Back to top Go down
Death over Life

avatar

Number of posts : 632
Age : 29
Location : The Inner Sanctum known as my Insanity and Damnation
Registration date : 2008-11-02
Points : 4341

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:58 pm

olias wrote:
DOL, I was being sarcastic.

I had known that from the beginning, but what you posted did show a great point in the end.

wizardovmetal wrote:
none of those symbols are christian in origin

i just want to say i wrote this article because people wanted instances, here are instances. what you choose to twist them into is your choice, i am not going to argue back and forth with anyone. the information is there, now read it, and decide for yourself

As I said though, unlike the Cross or some of the other symbols, the Baphomet DID originate in Christianity however. The Inverted Cross DID originate from Christianity. So, what people claim Christians do is exactly what occultists have done to Christians. Simplistic research will show that I am correct on the Baphomet and Inverted Cross. For Baphomet, research the Knights Templar, and for Inverted Cross, research Catholicism.
Back to top Go down
olias

avatar

Number of posts : 2399
Age : 28
Location : USA
Registration date : 2009-07-10
Points : 6168

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:14 pm

The inverted cross in Catholicism is quite benign. It is St. Peter's cross.
Back to top Go down
wizardovmetal

avatar

Number of posts : 1056
Age : 27
Location : COLD
Registration date : 2009-08-17
Points : 4682

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:19 pm

not a baphomet, the baphomet is not the same as a pentagram, the baphomet is a goddess, the inverted pentagram did not originate in christianity, an upright one did however, it is an original christian symbol they did not steal it like many of the rest they did Razz im not too sure about the inverted cross, but in all honesty symbols are consciously empowered, whatever you beleive the sybol represents is what it represents, just like satanists say an inverted cross is a blunt rejection of christianity, strangley enough, satanists enjoy making alot of things backwards or inverted. azazel once stated "darkness is light turned inside out". just like the jesus fish was used as a strange pagan sexual symbol, (do not feel like explaining it) to a christian it represents christ and him feeding the however many thousand people he fed with the 2 fish (forget exact number) symbols mean only what you intend them to mean. now as far as peters cross, ive heard that before, but like DOL said, sybols only mean what you want them to mean (or something similar) so to satanists, it is tottaly different from the original usage of the symbol

and as far as soundgarden choosing what went on the album cover, i doubt they did, someone most likely created it for them, they said dude that looks sweet, and that was the end of it. most of the time album covers, music videos, and sometimes even lyrics, are not even written by the artists. i doubt rhianna even knew anything about the symbology of the music video, because i doubt she even did the choreography and what not.

on a side note, i do not beleive christians should be making symbols of anything, this is a personal choice of mine so before someone comes in and bashes me for it, know i am not going out and preaching YOU SHOULDNT BE MAKING SYMBOLS!!!!!! secondly, i do not even beleive in the trinity concept because it is inaccurate, christ was gods son, anyone who is born of the spirit through the acceptance of christ, becomes a literal spiritual son of god, therefore it is more like god in 7 million persons.
Back to top Go down
http://www.myspace.com/jbmetalhed
MetalFRO

avatar

Number of posts : 1993
Age : 41
Location : Nebraska, USA
Registration date : 2008-11-13
Points : 5760

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:15 am

therockismighty wrote:
Always knew soundgarden were christian, thanks..... cheers Razz

Yes, they struck their "Jesus Christ Pose" affraid
Back to top Go down
http://metalfroreview.blogspot.com
mazzie

avatar

Number of posts : 5090
Age : 32
Location : New York
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Points : 7826

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:17 am

I merged occultism in this thread. Please keep all discussion related to satanism and occultism to this thread and keep the discussions civil and respectful.

_________________
Back to top Go down
http://mazziereviewmusic.blogspot.com
wizardovmetal

avatar

Number of posts : 1056
Age : 27
Location : COLD
Registration date : 2009-08-17
Points : 4682

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:50 am

LastFirstborn wrote:
Yeah, a lot of pop culture is definitely riddled with occult imagery. Sometimes, the artists are not occultists themselves, but there is someone behind the scenes controlling the imagery that goes into their music videos, album art and even lyrics. At this point, I'm not sure if I believe 100% that pop culture is co-opted by the Illuminati, but I won't try to deny the signs for my own comfort. Then again, it doesn't matter much to me anyway.

that is exactly my point, many times the bands dont even know what they are involved in, like with rhiannas music video, it is nothing but one giant occult video, but i doubt she knew anything about it, she just acted it out as they told her.
Back to top Go down
http://www.myspace.com/jbmetalhed
therockismighty

avatar

Number of posts : 923
Age : 36
Location : Aussieland
Registration date : 2009-06-14
Points : 4512

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:36 am

MetalFRO wrote:
therockismighty wrote:
Always knew soundgarden were christian, thanks..... cheers Razz

Yes, they struck their "Jesus Christ Pose" affraid

hahahaha, yes!

btw the meaning of that song is basically calling out those who are hypocrites in their faith, posing like Christ, but are full of it... thus why its an alright song.
Back to top Go down
Martinez



Number of posts : 145
Age : 27
Registration date : 2010-02-03
Points : 3474

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:25 pm

I have heard from ex-Satanics that Satan looks like a handsome man with blue eyes and fair-haired blond man, is that true?
Back to top Go down
MetalMatt

avatar

Number of posts : 5020
Age : 24
Location : Indiana
Registration date : 2009-01-31
Points : 8779

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:49 pm

I must add one fact, many of the Satanic symbols today were stolen from the Christians for example: the pentagram and the inverted cross

_________________
Tune in to Warzone Broadcast, every Saturday,6-8 pm EST @ blabberjesusradio.com

This is my signature

[/quote][17:37:50] Walter Kovacs : if everything in the universe was fudge, evenutally we would be eating our poop[quote]
Back to top Go down
Hero

avatar

Number of posts : 798
Age : 28
Location : Montreal
Registration date : 2009-04-06
Points : 4473

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:45 pm

Vengeance Rising Fan wrote:
I have heard from ex-Satanics that Satan looks like a handsome man with blue eyes and fair-haired blond man, is that true?

satan can look like whatever he wants.
the bible says he can disguise himself into an angel of light.
Back to top Go down
Vigilance Saints Arise

avatar

Number of posts : 328
Age : 56
Registration date : 2009-08-03
Points : 3810

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:33 pm

"I have Heaven here on Earth to do my part."


As a Man met his new Butler after he recieved a Trust fund.
He found he recieved a millian dollars when his Uncle died.

So he lived in an old mansion. He loved his Death Metal band.
As the music came clearly to his Voice, as the lyrics just came
to him on stage. His fingers flowed on his guitar night after night.
When he went gambling he allways seemed to win. As Ladies
of the night gathered around him. Where ever he went they
followed. He never slept alone.

Drugs before the show. Booze n drinks after. Perfect strangers
shared his table, as he put everything on his credit card.
Then one night it dawned on him, " When I gamble and allways win.
I've got so many new cars. Women love me were ever I go.
I buy new friends like this new suit they liked so much."

He told his Butler,
Heaven is too perfect. Can't I loose a bet sometimes?
I want some way of "not knowing" if I win or loose.
A little "bad luck" would be nice sometimes. Jesus!

The Butler said "To tell you the truth, I never said
you were in Heaven!" And he gave out a laugh like the Devil's scream.
Back to top Go down
Hguols

avatar

Number of posts : 2103
Age : 38
Location : Irving, Illinois
Registration date : 2009-09-09
Points : 5720

PostSubject: Re: Satanism   Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:26 pm

Vigilance Saints Arise wrote:
"I have Heaven here on Earth to do my part."


As a Man met his new Butler after he recieved a Trust fund.
He found he recieved a millian dollars when his Uncle died.

So he lived in an old mansion. He loved his Death Metal band.
As the music came clearly to his Voice, as the lyrics just came
to him on stage. His fingers flowed on his guitar night after night.
When he went gambling he allways seemed to win. As Ladies
of the night gathered around him. Where ever he went they
followed. He never slept alone.

Drugs before the show. Booze n drinks after. Perfect strangers
shared his table, as he put everything on his credit card.
Then one night it dawned on him, " When I gamble and allways win.
I've got so many new cars. Women love me were ever I go.
I buy new friends like this new suit they liked so much."

He told his Butler,
Heaven is too perfect. Can't I loose a bet sometimes?
I want some way of "not knowing" if I win or loose.
A little "bad luck" would be nice sometimes. Jesus!

The Butler said "To tell you the truth, I never said
you were in Heaven!" And he gave out a laugh like the Devil's scream.

Tis' but complacency.
Hardly hell.

Good little story! It truly is!
I still would have deleted it as a FW: though.
(but that's hardly anyone elses fault)
Back to top Go down
http://www.hguols.com
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Satanism   

Back to top Go down
 

Satanism

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 4 of 5Go to page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
BlabberBoard - Archives :: General Discussion :: Christian Discussion :: Theology-
Create a forum | © phpBB | Free forum support | Contact | Report an abuse | Forumotion.com