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Jim
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 37 Location : England Registration date : 2009-01-04 Points : 7044
| Subject: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:39 pm | |
| Want to meet new girls its so hard to find anyone who has strong faith like us! argh! Where are all the hott christian girls at! Now that ive lost my girlfriend recently, feels like theres no hott girls anywhere!! |
| | | James
Number of posts : 3979 Age : 45 Location : Mojave Desert, CA Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 7698
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:40 pm | |
| I'll send Broc right over. |
| | | mazzie
Number of posts : 5090 Age : 38 Location : New York Registration date : 2008-11-03 Points : 9782
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:41 pm | |
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| | | Jim
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 37 Location : England Registration date : 2009-01-04 Points : 7044
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:43 pm | |
| - James wrote:
- I'll send Broc right over.
too far away |
| | | crushthehorns
Number of posts : 557 Age : 32 Location : The Nordlands of Indiana Registration date : 2008-11-03 Points : 6205
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:52 pm | |
| - Jim wrote:
Where are all the hott christian girls at!
They don't exist outside of the internet. |
| | | Theonymic
Number of posts : 375 Age : 36 Registration date : 2009-01-13 Points : 5948
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:56 pm | |
| I thought girls don't exist on the internet. Actually, there are a lot of hott Christian girls in Texas. |
| | | Jim
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 37 Location : England Registration date : 2009-01-04 Points : 7044
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:05 pm | |
| - Theonymic wrote:
- I thought girls don't exist on the internet.
Actually, there are a lot of hott Christian girls in Texas. Right im moving to texas! |
| | | graybeardheadbanger
Number of posts : 167 Age : 57 Registration date : 2009-07-26 Points : 5554
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:17 pm | |
| - Jim wrote:
- Want to meet new girls
its so hard to find anyone who has strong faith like us! argh!
Where are all the hott christian girls at!
I find it ironic that you complain that you cannot find women who have "strong Christian faith like us" and then bemoan the fact that there aren't any HOT Christian women. Are you looking for faithfulness, or hottness? Sure, you'll say BOTH, but should the hotness be as important? Certainly attractivenss means SOMETHING--how much is all the question. Just soemthing to think about, graybeardheadbanger |
| | | mystery
Number of posts : 457 Age : 32 Registration date : 2009-07-26 Points : 5871
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:18 pm | |
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| | | James
Number of posts : 3979 Age : 45 Location : Mojave Desert, CA Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 7698
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:19 pm | |
| - graybeardheadbanger wrote:
- Jim wrote:
- Want to meet new girls
its so hard to find anyone who has strong faith like us! argh!
Where are all the hott christian girls at!
I find it ironic that you complain that you cannot find women who have "strong Christian faith like us" and then bemoan the fact that there aren't any HOT Christian women. Are you looking for faithfulness, or hottness? Sure, you'll say BOTH, but should the hotness be as important? Certainly attractivenss means SOMETHING--how much is all the question.
Just soemthing to think about,
graybeardheadbanger Gray makes a good point. |
| | | Exhumed
Number of posts : 671 Age : 36 Location : Chile Registration date : 2009-07-19 Points : 6117
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:45 pm | |
| - Jim wrote:
Now that ive lost my girlfriend recently, feels like theres no hott girls anywhere!!
We all feel that way when we end up a relationship "OMG she was so special and unique!!" |
| | | eternalmystery
Number of posts : 730 Age : 36 Location : Franklinton, Louisiana, USA Registration date : 2008-11-03 Points : 6189
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:56 pm | |
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| | | Kan-o-sushi
Number of posts : 1348 Age : 32 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 6857
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:02 pm | |
| I will wait for a good friendship to grow before I consider a relationship with a girl... Ideally, for me, it would be cool to just to hang out with them as the friendship grows, not really a "date". Of course, both sides will have to show some interest in it from the get-go This is also kinda difficult for me since I'm introverted and somewhat shy, though. I don't end up talking to many girls (sometimes I don't even say hi to people (including guys) that I'm friends with unless they do it first) that I don't already know from being put in a situation with them where we ended up talking (like in class being placed in a group with them, or seeing them at a youth group or a church, etc.). I have been making an effort to be more outgoing lately though... something I need to do. |
| | | eternalmystery
Number of posts : 730 Age : 36 Location : Franklinton, Louisiana, USA Registration date : 2008-11-03 Points : 6189
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:13 pm | |
| - graybeardheadbanger wrote:
- Jim wrote:
- Want to meet new girls
its so hard to find anyone who has strong faith like us! argh!
Where are all the hott christian girls at!
I find it ironic that you complain that you cannot find women who have "strong Christian faith like us" and then bemoan the fact that there aren't any HOT Christian women. Are you looking for faithfulness, or hottness? Sure, you'll say BOTH, but should the hotness be as important? Certainly attractivenss means SOMETHING--how much is all the question.
Just soemthing to think about,
graybeardheadbanger Graybeard hit the nail on the head. While good looks may certainly be a bonus, it isn't really an essential thing one should have set in their mind when looking for a partner. As a Christian, you should look for someone who hold to the same faith and values as you do, first and foremost. That is the #1 thing, and really the only thing, you should be looking for. Good looks really don't even belong on the list. They are a bonus, don't get me wrong, but trust me, girls that hold themselves to a high moral standard and are serious about their faith are extremely rare in this day and age. I mean, why do you think that I rarely ever get girlfriends? Some people think that I might be the problem, and to be honest sometimes I do get lonely and think that it might be me, but then I look back at all the girls that I have blatantly turned down because of my faith, some who were even extremely beautiful girls who were very popular. We should not give in to compromise on this issue, because what if you are serious about your faith and end up marrying someone who isn't, or even worse, isn't even a Christian? When and if you have kids together, it will cause a ton of conflict, and that's something you don't want to subject your children to. But seriously, good looks aren't everything. In fact, they are nothing. I had a couple of girls I am friends with tell me that if I was ever going to get a girl, that I need to cut my hair and lose weight (I'm a pretty big guy, 6' 2" tall and 250 pounds, with exactly 2 feet of hair). They were making me suck in my stomach and were telling me all kinds of things that made me really upset. But then I realized that they were just immature. Most girls who have told me things like this can't even keep a guy around for longer than 2 or 3 months. And besides, do you really think that beauty lasts forever? Things changed on me within 2 months in my personal life. I used to be extremely thin, but then I got on a certain bipolar medication that is known for causing weight gain, and I gained 120 pounds and about 8 pant sizes within 3 months. I gained weight so quick that most of my stomach and some other parts of my body are covered in stretch marks. And even if you do get someone who you would consider "hott", do you think that they are going to look that way forever? The vast majority of women nowadays, if they are thin now, 20 years from now their posterior is going to probably be as wide as a deep freezer. This is no exaggeration. Most of the overweight older men and women I know were at one time as thin as a twig back when they were in their 20s. But once they got into their 30s, they started to gain weight, get a little wider, and eventually from their mid-40s on became really big. Beauty fades, people die, and corpses decompose. Those who are so gung-ho about getting someone and only someone who classifies as "hott" will be 20 years from now divorcing their spouse because of their getting fat, unless of course they develop a conscience, some feelings, and actually love that person enough to understand what they are going through and actually have enough brains to realize that beauty dies quick. Go find your grandma's old pics from back when she was a teenager or in high school. Compare them to her now and see if you can notice a change. |
| | | Kan-o-sushi
Number of posts : 1348 Age : 32 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2008-11-02 Points : 6857
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:23 pm | |
| - eternalmystery wrote:
- Go find your grandma's old pics from back when she was a teenager or in high school. Compare them to her now and see if you can notice a change.
Hey Broc, mang... I just wanted to say... Your Grandma was HOT! |
| | | therockismighty
Number of posts : 923 Age : 41 Location : Aussieland Registration date : 2009-06-14 Points : 6468
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:12 am | |
| They are in Australia Jim, I know a truckload of beautiful single Christian women, including myself.. and there ain;t alot of guys who aren't tools around... so we understand how you feel. |
| | | Jim
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 37 Location : England Registration date : 2009-01-04 Points : 7044
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:15 am | |
| - mystery wrote:
- haha a lil pathetic
Ass |
| | | Jim
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 37 Location : England Registration date : 2009-01-04 Points : 7044
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:17 am | |
| - eternalmystery wrote:
- graybeardheadbanger wrote:
- Jim wrote:
- Want to meet new girls
its so hard to find anyone who has strong faith like us! argh!
Where are all the hott christian girls at!
I find it ironic that you complain that you cannot find women who have "strong Christian faith like us" and then bemoan the fact that there aren't any HOT Christian women. Are you looking for faithfulness, or hottness? Sure, you'll say BOTH, but should the hotness be as important? Certainly attractivenss means SOMETHING--how much is all the question.
Just soemthing to think about,
graybeardheadbanger Graybeard hit the nail on the head. While good looks may certainly be a bonus, it isn't really an essential thing one should have set in their mind when looking for a partner. As a Christian, you should look for someone who hold to the same faith and values as you do, first and foremost. That is the #1 thing, and really the only thing, you should be looking for. Good looks really don't even belong on the list. They are a bonus, don't get me wrong, but trust me, girls that hold themselves to a high moral standard and are serious about their faith are extremely rare in this day and age. I mean, why do you think that I rarely ever get girlfriends? Some people think that I might be the problem, and to be honest sometimes I do get lonely and think that it might be me, but then I look back at all the girls that I have blatantly turned down because of my faith, some who were even extremely beautiful girls who were very popular. We should not give in to compromise on this issue, because what if you are serious about your faith and end up marrying someone who isn't, or even worse, isn't even a Christian? When and if you have kids together, it will cause a ton of conflict, and that's something you don't want to subject your children to.
But seriously, good looks aren't everything. In fact, they are nothing. I had a couple of girls I am friends with tell me that if I was ever going to get a girl, that I need to cut my hair and lose weight (I'm a pretty big guy, 6' 2" tall and 250 pounds, with exactly 2 feet of hair). They were making me suck in my stomach and were telling me all kinds of things that made me really upset. But then I realized that they were just immature. Most girls who have told me things like this can't even keep a guy around for longer than 2 or 3 months. And besides, do you really think that beauty lasts forever? Things changed on me within 2 months in my personal life. I used to be extremely thin, but then I got on a certain bipolar medication that is known for causing weight gain, and I gained 120 pounds and about 8 pant sizes within 3 months. I gained weight so quick that most of my stomach and some other parts of my body are covered in stretch marks. And even if you do get someone who you would consider "hott", do you think that they are going to look that way forever? The vast majority of women nowadays, if they are thin now, 20 years from now their posterior is going to probably be as wide as a deep freezer. This is no exaggeration. Most of the overweight older men and women I know were at one time as thin as a twig back when they were in their 20s. But once they got into their 30s, they started to gain weight, get a little wider, and eventually from their mid-40s on became really big.
Beauty fades, people die, and corpses decompose. Those who are so gung-ho about getting someone and only someone who classifies as "hott" will be 20 years from now divorcing their spouse because of their getting fat, unless of course they develop a conscience, some feelings, and actually love that person enough to understand what they are going through and actually have enough brains to realize that beauty dies quick. Go find your grandma's old pics from back when she was a teenager or in high school. Compare them to her now and see if you can notice a change. Well to be honest, my ex-girlfriend who i lost recently was hott and a chirstian, and there are tons of hott strong christian girls at my church but they are all friends with my ex. And no looks aren't eveything, but personally i could not be with somebody who i didnt find attractive... |
| | | Jim
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 37 Location : England Registration date : 2009-01-04 Points : 7044
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:18 am | |
| - therockismighty wrote:
- They are in Australia Jim, I know a truckload of beautiful single Christian women, including myself.. and there ain;t alot of guys who aren't tools around... so we understand how you feel.
Im moving to AUS hit me up with a place to stay! |
| | | IronGuardian
Number of posts : 2271 Age : 35 Location : Perth, Western Australia Registration date : 2008-11-03 Points : 8142
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:28 am | |
| - eternalmystery wrote:
- I mean, why do you think that I rarely ever get girlfriends?
Come on, that's just too easy - Quote :
- But then I realized that they were just immature.
Yes, and no. There is attractive, unattractive, and unhealthy. No-one wants to be with someone who is unhealthy, no matter how nice they are. Being unhealthy has so many troubles, and it's unattractive too. - Quote :
- I gained weight so quick that most of my stomach and some other parts of my body are covered in stretch marks.
Same thing happened to me on anti-depressants. Strech marks suck, shouldn't exist on guys - Quote :
The vast majority of women nowadays, if they are thin now, 20 years from now their posterior is going to probably be as wide as a deep freezer. Especially if they live in America Nah, seriously, this isn't true. If you keep looking after yourself, you can remain healthily thin your whole life. While I understand what you and GBHB are saying, it's not completely true. Physical beauty is often what FIRST draws us to someone, and then the personality sets in. With time, you grow to love them. It can happen with "unattractive" people, but it takes longer, as the initial physical attraction isn't there. Biological imperative! - Jim wrote:
- And no looks aren't eveything, but personally i could not be with somebody who i didnt find attractive...
This I can understand. What some people consider attractive, others don't. Hot to one person isn't Hot to another. Conventional beauty is nice though, given the choice. |
| | | graybeardheadbanger
Number of posts : 167 Age : 57 Registration date : 2009-07-26 Points : 5554
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:53 am | |
| I personally wouldn't recommend getting involved with someone for whom you have very little or no attraction. However, I think some people have kind of conditioned themselves to be unnecessarily picky, etc. about what they are willign to consider attractive. We are biological beings, so of course there are biological responses to beauty which drive us, etc. However, we are also rational beings, who need to put our reactions into a balance. To an extent, though the original poster did not say this, in most cases when I've seen guys (and probably women talk this way), they tend to overlook shortcomings in the faith part more than the looks part. They may have certain standards (she has to make a Christian profession, cannot be a doper, etc.), but the question of how much of a fuill commitment she really has tends to be downplayed if they find here physically hot. Conversely, an average-pretty girl on fire for the Lord may be "just friend" material. This is especially true given Broc's comments---do you really htink if you choose a woman mainly because she is "hot" that you'll be in a palce spiritually to accept it if that changes? One car accident, or medical condition, etc. or just a few years can change that in a hurry. Sure, people may tough it out of Christian commitment (and that is noble), BUT they will have to wage a war inside to overcome their own fleshy impulse to jusitfy leaving, etc. Once again, I'm not saying looks don't matter at all--but, they should take a fairly significant second place to other considerations, and one may want to consider some of the qualities of average looking women before passing them by due to lack of hotness.
Scripture does in fact suggest that Christians should not seek spouses based on the response of the flesh, as the heathen do. I'll have to look for a reference, but it's there (one of Paul's writings). Here's a thing to understand: by and large, marriage is not about "personal fulfillment." We buy into that because our society is so based on individualism and because of the influence of contemporary psychology. From a Christian perspective, Christian marriage is about serving the kingdom together. Marriage is meant to reflect Christ's love for the Church. If one has the right focus, they will find fulfillment in that with the person they can do that with--looks are not irrelevant, but they are the driving point.
Somehting I read again the other day--when Abraham seeks a wife for his son, the Lord sets up a test that shows whether or not she has a servant's heart. She passes the test and is chosen before Isaac even sees her. Later, Isaac's son Jacob (who is capable of shenanigans, even though it is within God's plan) decides to pursue Rachel based on her beautiful "shape," and is left with Leah, who has "pretty eyes" but is not as shapely. He is tricked by Laban, much as he tricked his father. He does eventually get Rachel, but there are complicaitons involved. In the end, Jacob dies a godly man, etc. God worked within these difficulties. Still, one cannot help but notice that his father, and grandfather, had a better sense early on of what God intends for one in the pursuit of a spouse. (NOte also that polygamy, which Jacob practiced, was not the original norm in the Garden, and that Christianity restored full fledged monogamy). Polygamy was allowed by God for a period, but it was never the ideal. This is interesting to ponder in light of Jacob's journey with Rachel and Leah.
Peace, graybeardheadbanger |
| | | Tallerthanatree
Number of posts : 957 Age : 33 Location : Kentucky Registration date : 2009-07-26 Points : 6438
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:36 am | |
| I would never get in a relationship with someone I didnt find attractive. Ever. |
| | | Averzaath
Number of posts : 1147 Age : 36 Location : Woerden, The Netherlands Registration date : 2009-08-02 Points : 6614
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:54 am | |
| - Tallerthanatree wrote:
- I would never get in a relationship with someone I didnt find attractive. Ever.
you're talking about physical appearance? |
| | | graybeardheadbanger
Number of posts : 167 Age : 57 Registration date : 2009-07-26 Points : 5554
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:23 am | |
| - Tallerthanatree wrote:
- I would never get in a relationship with someone I didnt find attractive. Ever.
No one here has suggested dating someone you find positively unattractive. The discussion has more to do with the focus on hotness. In any case, you statement does reveal something about a common mindset. It seems to me that people are often more quick to make clear that they would not date someone unattractive (which I agree that they shouldn't do) than they are to point out that they wouldn't date someone without faith. If rpessed, they'll say, "Oh yeah, well of course that is important too," etc., BUT what is foremost on their mind in their reaction is the importance of looks to them. Also, let's be honest, it's easier to convince oneself that someone is more spiritually solid than they are if one is physically stirred by them. In fact, if someone is in a relationship with someone to whom they are attracted but who lacks faith, I suspect they might be willing to forego ending the relationship as a result of the latter until it began to create real problems too big to ignore, but it might take relatively little imperfection on the part of a faith filled eprson to justify not dating them in one's mind--that is, much more latitude would be given to tolerate lack of faith than lack of physical ideal (I'm saying where there was a modicum of attractiveness). Or, another way to put it, one may insist that a girl is physically "hot" in order to date her (as opposed to "okay"), BUT it would be enough for them for a hot girl to simply be "okay" in her faith as opposed to "hot" in her faith. That is, "okay" is acceptable for faith (even if not ideal), but not for looks. That does reveal something about one's valeus and priorities, does it not? Deep down, if one had to make a choice between compromisng in the faith dept. and compromisng in the look dept., I suspect that many would think that they would rather comrpomise in the former than the latter (at least until they have had some experience with such relationships, etc.) Of course they;d say they want both, but the immediate inner reaction would be to give greater value to looks, and secondarily to the faith "stuff." Once again, I'm not advocating someone dating simply because someone has faith, despite their looks--however, the priority of our emphasis and the immediacy of our reaction do tell us something about our values and priorities, etc. Just something to think about, graybeardheadbanger |
| | | ELAN
Number of posts : 952 Age : 34 Location : Connectikvlt Registration date : 2009-01-27 Points : 6636
| Subject: Re: Christian Dating Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:33 am | |
| I made an extremely kvlt and raw black metal album and ended up marrying my biggest fan. Just do the same thing. It works, I swear. |
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