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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:09 pm

Tallerthanatree wrote:
TENTACLE RAPE
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:03 am

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I don't see the big deal with it, when I see it (and I have seen it a few times throughout my 'youth', both in video, pictures or comic books, whether with friends, alone, intentional or per accident), it does NOT cause me to think of sexual things with any of the cartoons, nor with any other person.
It does not arouses me.

I think it's rather weird, sometimes extremely weird, sometimes drawn incredibly well.
A serious question, are there people here who have actual problems with watching paintings of naked people? (or draw naked people in art classes?)

When I see pictures of naked ladies, whether they would pop up on the internet without me wanting it, or are displayed on image boards I frequently (used to) visit, yet know they're shown as well, I don't get the whole arousal thing.

There are actually people who don't see the big deal with sexual imagery, and there are people who can actually only perform when there is fruit stuffed in their behinds... I can see why porn (and hentai) can be the most common way of getting lustful thoughts, but I'm still 100% sure that not everyone is affected by it.

If you want to have a look at it, I am sure it's no big deal,
if you actually need it to get aroused, or watch it every other day when being alone in your room, if you get what I mean... then you should rethink watching it.
Because most of the times those situations are even more absurd than in porn-flicks, and will probably never happen, nor will you end up with an asian chick looking remotely like one of the girls in those cartoons.

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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:54 am

When I see stuff like hentai, I just laugh... I do not struggle with lust or anything whilst watching anything like that... saying that I don't seek it out to watch... only have seen it at a friends house... she is majorly into anything like this... anime, manga whatever the crap it is.

I agree with Matt and Munkey...I do believe nudity done tastefully is beautiful, not a horndog thing... its just to be admired.

We all are nakkid underneath our clothes... just some people need to reserve that only for their beloved Very Happy

But alot of guys and gals struggle with being mature and controlled in their views of nudity and lust, thus must avoid things that they can twist into something that is sexual or could be implied as sexual.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:40 am

A good test to see whether or not you should be doing something (and the Bible has no clear answer) is this:

1. Are you honering God by doing this?
2. Would you want your grandmother to see you doing this?

Japanese porn cartoons are meant to do the same thing as regular porn. I don't see any legitimate argument a Christian could have for watching it.

Naked art is slightly different, because in some cases it is not meant to be sexual (sometimes it is). However like people have said, if it causes you to sin, don't look at it.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:33 am

My grandma wouldn't care.... sooooo you might insert " highly moral person close to you and would freak out if you knew they saw you watching it"
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:33 pm

bee_rad wrote:
A good test to see whether or not you should be doing something (and the Bible has no clear answer) is this:

1. Are you honering God by doing this?
2. Would you want your grandmother to see you doing this?

Terrible logic, man.


Q) Are you honoring God by doing this?
    A) Am I honoring God by eating an apple or making furniture out of wood? Sure, you could make it honoring to God if you were inclined to, but inherently neither action pleases nor displeases God.


Q) Would you want your grandmother to see you doing this?
    A) Would you like for your grandmother to see you taking a shower? I wouldn't, but if she does, it doesn't mean I am displeasing God by taking a shower.


Your logic and reasoning is flawed, bee_rad.




Hguols nailed it on the head with his post...

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To me the point is, it doesn't really matter what it is, its what it does to me.

If I am overwhelmed with lust by peering upon office furniture, I should probably stay away from that stuff lest I grab it and start clawing my way to hell.

Some people could probably watch a naughty cartoon, get a laugh, and never watch it again. Other people get hooked and get off to it.

A guess a similar instance would be drugs and alcohol. Some people can do it socially, recreationally, and in moderation. Other people would sell their soul for their addiction.

Not everything was meant for everyone. There is a time and a season for everything, but that does not mean that that time or season will ever come in your life.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:20 pm

heated argument in 3...2....1.......
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:55 pm

The entire truth of this matter can be summed up into one statement:

If Hentai tempts you to lust, as with anything else which does, do not view it.

Defiling your mind with lust is extremely unhealthy and damaging spiritually. Hentai IS a form of pornography - which is intended to arouse and create lustful thoughts. If it causes sexual desire and lust do not watch it.
Also, for those reading this, don't go looking at it to see whether or not it tempts you - "testing" yourself against it, I suppose. Do not give temptation a chance.

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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:42 am

Tallerthanatree wrote:
TENTACLE RAPE

I think I seen that one rofl!! On a more serious note, I am fighting to not give in to temptation, stop going to porno sites or anything that may suggest it, which is why I find sites like these more entertaining to go to as well as gaming, it keeps my mind off that kind of stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:01 am

Wean i found Christ i thew all my porn mags in the bin and did the switch from Real Porn to 3D Hentai, that was cool for a while but then i thort "yhear, this aint right". I think the main reson why i stoped was just so i can truthfully say "i dont download porn" but another good resone to stay away is just cos' its more perverce then the normal run of the mill dude bonks chik. I know personaly that porn can skrew with your opinion of women, Hentai whoudent be diffrent i imagine
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:04 am

...and yes i am a massive loser, i know thats what you're all thinking
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:15 am

Kräg wrote:
...and yes i am a massive loser, i know thats what you're all thinking

no ones here to judge dude, i know where your coming from.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:08 am

What's sinful about images of women that aren't real?
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:57 pm

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What's sinful about images of women that aren't real?

If there is nothing sexually enticing or made to provoke lustful or other sinful thoughts...nothing.

But I am assuming you mean pictures or drawings of women who don't exist and ARE in lustful/sexual poses etc. The simple answer is that it is out of the order that God gave humans for sexuality. God meant for human sexuality to be enjoyed by married couples as a means of union with each other and God as well as co-create with God (if it is in His will). Lustful images, hentai or not, characterizes sexuality as a commodity divorced from God-given dignity of humanity. It essentially leads to an objectification of people as tools to fulfill some animalistic impulse. That is why it is not fulfilling and you have millions upon millions of pornography addicts in the world today because they keep trying to fulfill a God-given desire with something that is only a very small part of the equation.

Another thing to look at with any of these things: see what the fruits of it are. You know the tree by its fruit. Hentai is closely related to porn...there is no differentiation between the two on the internet. And the fruits of porn can be seen as the root in many broken families, lost jobs, etc...porn has even been a gateway drug for many serial killers. If one continues into this filth, you will see the worst acts against humanity!

Why someone would even want to try to rationalize looking at hentai (or porn) is beyond me. I'd say "cut off the eye that causes you to sin" Time would be much better spent in prayer and reading the Bible than wasting time on these fictional atrocities!
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:13 pm

Munkey106 wrote:
bee_rad wrote:
A good test to see whether or not you should be doing something (and the Bible has no clear answer) is this:

1. Are you honering God by doing this?
2. Would you want your grandmother to see you doing this?

Terrible logic, man.


Q) Are you honoring God by doing this?
    A) Am I honoring God by eating an apple or making furniture out of wood? Sure, you could make it honoring to God if you were inclined to, but inherently neither action pleases nor displeases God.


Q) Would you want your grandmother to see you doing this?
    A) Would you like for your grandmother to see you taking a shower? I wouldn't, but if she does, it doesn't mean I am displeasing God by taking a shower.


Your logic and reasoning is flawed, bee_rad.

Completely missed the boat Munkey.

Here's what question 1 means: If God is a just God who abhors sin, would He get angry if He sees you involved in such things?

Here's what question 2 means: Would the parents, assuming they are right with God and live to have their children be right with Him as well, become angry if they discovered that you were involved in such things?

If the answer is yes for either of these questions, you are commanded to flee from it. If you don't, you are sinning in two ways:

1) The actual act of looking at pornography
2) Because you are doing this in full awareness that both God and your parents despise it and do not want you to have anything to do with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:30 pm

Kräg wrote:
run of the mill dude bonks chik.

Hahahahahaha.
Something about that just cracked me up.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:10 am

I have the same views as Matt on this.

Being raised by German parents in an American culture has caused me to understand the two mindsets pretty well.

The European one.. much more "liberal" or natural with nudity and sex.

The American (Puritan) one... regularly over-emphasizes any form of nudity and sex.

Something that always made me laugh. even as a wee lad.. was my Mom was going out with the guy who would later be my step dad... he would totally trip out that it was not unusual for my Mom to be naked in her room and for myself or my brother to simply enter and talk to her while she was naked... neither one of use thinking anything about it. But, he as the American he is... would Not have it!!

Also, similarly with my Dad... if he had to change his clothes in a hurry or something, he wouldn't think twice about doing it right in front of his sons.. nor did we think anything about it either..

And yet when you tell Americans this they immediately start asking if you were molested or some such nonsense.. going back to the point I was making of how they over-emphasize nudity to a level that is uniquely American.

Come to think of it.. Americans do the same thing with alcohol.. they make it so Sacred by default.. by making the drinking age 21 and creating such strict laws about minors drinking in public or even at home... that it is no wonder when kids do turn 21 they start binge drinking themselves into oblivion.. because that simple thing like a beer was made so "sacred" by it's level of being forbidden.

Being raised by German parents... I had already been drinking for many years by the time I turned 21.. and if I really needed alcohol.. my dad would be glad to buy some for me. Probably the same kind of dad MAtt has.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:54 am

Ummm, im no prude.. but I do not ever want to see my mum or dad nakkid... ... its just not something I want to have etched in my memory..... thats for them to keep for each other... gross o parental wobbly bits... ick.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:43 pm

therockismighty wrote:
huge breasts

"I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour." - Songs of Solomon 8:10

"Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love." - Proverbs 5:19

The problem with hentai, as with all porn, is that it's essentially the wrong boobs.
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:15 am

Hguols wrote:
For example, there are some paintings in that era of cunnilingus.

Shocked

Obviously paintings my art teacher in high school glossed over during our "art history" phase Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:04 am

Here's an interesting thought. I read a story on CNN a while back. They interveiwd this guy, who was a pedophile. But, he didn't want to be one, like he said he didn't know why he was, and he didn't want to be. He said he was a Christian, and he used prayer, and this to remain "pure." He talked about how he uses hentai versions of kids, called shota, as a healthy release. Now, religious or not, something like that CAN'T be a choice. Who the hell would CHOSE to be a pedo? So, here's this guy, doing his best to remain pure, but can't control his base urges, so he finds an outlet that doesn't harm kids. The guy was like 40-somthing, and he'd never had sex with anybody, and he said that he never would, beuase he doesn't want to hurt anybody. So, can it be ALL bad? Now I know, that someone could say, well it might incite someone to go rape a child. I say if you are gonna rape a kid, you were gonna do it anyway, cartoons or no. It's just like the metal/horror movies cause serial killers argument. It's all based o you. I've listened to some of the most "evil" metal in the world, and I've been watching horror movies since I was 11, and I never killed anybody, because I was raised in a moral, loving house, and I'm Christian. I say as long as the guy deosn't hurt a kid, you keep on abuseing yourelf to cartoons. More power to ya! lol Thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: Hentai?   Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:34 pm

From what I can tell this Pornographic Anima or Manga. if someone is going to watch Porn why would they what to read or watch a cartoon? Just asking?
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