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PostSubject: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:59 pm



I know its graphic, but get over it. People need to know what they're dealing with. I used to be apologetic when I would state my views on Abortion but screw that I've had enough. Abortion is wrong. Help stop it.

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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:31 pm

abortion is murder, plain and simple

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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:13 am

The Beast Slayer wrote:
I used to be apologetic when I would state my views on Abortion but screw that I've had enough. Abortion is wrong. Help stop it.

I am kind of confused of what you wrote; what do you mean when you say you were apologetic when stating your abortion views?
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:27 pm

^As in something like this:"Im sorry but this is what I believe.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:40 pm

and then there are people that are completely desensitized to what someone calls "precious" and refuse to say it should stop....they can be seen on TV calling people like you or I "bastards", "fundies", "idiots", $ even "@$$h*les" and the like.....they are the ones "begging for tolerance" when they themselves are intolerant of of being tolerant towards ANYONE at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:43 am

POD said it best:

"Abortion is murder, there's nothing you can say or do-
to justify the fact, that there's a living breathing baby inside of you!"
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:51 am

MetalFRO wrote:
POD said it best:

"Abortion is murder, there's nothing you can say or do-
to justify the fact, that there's a living breathing baby inside of you!"


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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:51 am

Gorlim (OMW) wrote:
MetalFRO wrote:
POD said it best:

"Abortion is murder, there's nothing you can say or do-
to justify the fact, that there's a living breathing baby inside of you!"


QFT.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:33 pm

"I've notice that everyone that is for abortion, has already been born"
- Ronald Reagan

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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:13 am

I agree with you guys, but what is the best way to stop it? I once read a poignant quote which really challenged me. I might be paraphrasing, but it went something like "If I'm going to be pro-life, then I had better be prepared to adopt a baby or care for a single mother."
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:31 am

We cannot tell the world what to do, what we can do is show them there is another way.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:39 am

therockismighty wrote:
We cannot tell the world what to do, what we can do is show them there is another way.

How?
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:33 pm

NorthernAsh wrote:
and then there are people that are completely desensitized to what someone calls "precious" and refuse to say it should stop....they can be seen on TV calling people like you or I "bastards", "fundies", "idiots", $ even "@$$h*les" and the like.....they are the ones "begging for tolerance" when they themselves are intolerant of of being tolerant towards ANYONE at all.

This couldn't have been said any better. +1
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:44 pm

Abortion is a very nuanced, complicated issue... a black and white moral answer can't really be applied to the abortion issue. Personally, my first question before "is abortion right or wrong?" would be "are unborn fetuses conscious?" If they are conscious, then yes, abortion is mostly morally objectionable. If not, it isn't "wrong" any more than eating a vegetable or picking a flower is "wrong". Even if they are conscious, though, I think women and girls who were raped should have the right to abort. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's right for a woman to sleep around knowing the consequences, then casually get an abortion like it's no big deal, but I also think it's wrong for a woman or girl who was forced into pregnancy against her will to have some hypothetical anti-abortion law telling her what she does with her own body. Of course, then the problem is, how would we only offer abortion to women or girls who were raped? That's far fetched, and (IMO) the government needs to crack down on rapists big time to lower the chance of rape.


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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:46 pm

the problem with what i see is. all the children born into disgusting familys, who abuse children, sexually, mentally, physically. do they deserve that?
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:53 pm

This is a very wishful thinking, abortion has been around since people have had children.

As long as people have sex, there will be abortions.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:51 pm

LastFirstborn wrote:
Abortion is a very nuanced, complicated issue... a black and white moral answer can't really be applied to the abortion issue. Personally, my first question before "is abortion right or wrong?" would be "are unborn fetuses conscious?" If they are conscious, then yes, abortion is mostly morally objectionable. If not, it isn't "wrong" any more than eating a vegetable or picking a flower is "wrong". Even if they are conscious, though, I think women and girls who were raped should have the right to abort. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's right for a woman to sleep around knowing the consequences, then casually get an abortion like it's no big deal, but I also think it's wrong for a woman or girl who was forced into pregnancy against her will to have some hypothetical anti-abortion law telling her what she does with her own body. Of course, then the problem is, how would we only offer abortion to women or girls who were raped? That's far fetched, so (IMO) the government needs to crack down on rapists big time to lower the chance of rape.

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No seriously, Girls who are raped can have their children and then put it up for adoption because a family looking to adopt will happily take a healthy baby even it that type of situation. Rape doesn't mean they should kill the child in their tummy. Although its completely her decision and if she wants an abortion then she will do as she pleases.

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As long as people have sex, there will be abortions.


Sadly this is the truth. I hate abortion threads so I will not jump in here with my opinions but I do think abortion is murder to the unborn and 50,000,000 women do them yearly. What has the world come too. :[
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:34 pm

If only people realized that abortion brings more trouble to themselves than to these dead babies. So, the babies die. Sure, it's sad. But God places them somewhere. While some believe they go directly to Heaven, it makes no sense to me because we all have to make choices to end up there or in hell. Regardless, abortions opens up demonic doors in peoples lives. The psychological problems encountered after abortion are very real and they are caused in the spiritual.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:55 pm

IT all reminds me of the Spartans of Greece. They would throw their babies that were inferior in some way or unwanted...down off the side of a cliff.. just like portrayed in the movie 300.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:26 am

Ah look, if you aint a Christian, I aint gonna say anything what you decide.

Yes its a touchy subject... for sure, not black and white.

I personally would struggle having one.. like if I did get raped, or I had to terminate or I would die etc.

Someone in my family has had numerous abortions... pretty sure she could have stopped having sex or used contraceptives to their full effects, alas cannot judge, just pity the fact she missed out on having that girl she doesnt have now, just 4 boys.

So when you plan a pregnancy.... its alive.. its a little human...
when you don't want it.. its a fetus and its not a human yet. That is what I hear from those I know, for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:44 am

Here's a good sermon on the topic, by John Piper: http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/2010/4489_Born_Blind_for_the_Glory_of_God/

I think it shows a bit of how the issue fits into Jesus' worldview.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:53 am

LastFirstborn wrote:
Personally, my first question before "is abortion right or wrong?" would be "are unborn fetuses conscious?" If they are conscious, then yes, abortion is mostly morally objectionable. If not, it isn't "wrong" any more than eating a vegetable or picking a flower is "wrong".
I'm not much use to society either when I'm asleep, but if you wait a few hours I'll wake up, brush my teeth, and go deliver your mail. So it's probably not moral, ethical, or in the best interest of society to kill me in my sleep. It's not like my soul leaves my body when I'm unconscious.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:38 am

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If only people realized that abortion brings more trouble to themselves than to these dead babies. So, the babies die. Sure, it's sad. But God places them somewhere. While some believe they go directly to Heaven, it makes no sense to me because we all have to make choices to end up there or in hell. Regardless, abortions opens up demonic doors in peoples lives. The psychological problems encountered after abortion are very real and they are caused in the spiritual.

excuse me...

so what your saying is unborn babies go to hell..

thats such a B**** thing to say. Thats disgusting...
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:59 am

Babies don'y go to hell.

Christ spoke, while holding a child in his arms - " Truly I say unto you, unless you beceome like one of these, you shall in know way enter the kingdom of heaven " - paraphrasing.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion and Why it has to stop NOW.   Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:13 am

Jim wrote:
Hero wrote:
If only people realized that abortion brings more trouble to themselves than to these dead babies. So, the babies die. Sure, it's sad. But God places them somewhere. While some believe they go directly to Heaven, it makes no sense to me because we all have to make choices to end up there or in hell. Regardless, abortions opens up demonic doors in peoples lives. The psychological problems encountered after abortion are very real and they are caused in the spiritual.

excuse me...

so what your saying is unborn babies go to hell..

thats such a B**** thing to say. Thats disgusting...

I can't believe anyone can twist my words so much.
I don't believe kids who die young age go to Heaven directly. I believe they go to a place where they make their own choices. But not on Earth. There is nothing to prove this. This is really only my opinion.
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